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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,459 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    You don't need to say anything, no one is gonna dip into your bank account.

    Subscription is voluntary. It really is simple. Imo

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,328 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Subbed, anyway. Some of the forums are very useful and/or interesting. The price of a pint and a coffee a month won't kill me!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,200 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I thanked Signore's post, even though I have subscribed. I really don't have a great deal of faith in the 'save the site' process, but I have to give it a go. Agreed though, there does not seem to be a great deal of competence, interest or expertise being shown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭pureza


    How big is your bank balance as a few of us are thinking of joining boards work force as volunteers and dipping into everybody’s bank accounts seeing as you say that’s possible with this new secret power they’ve apparently invented

    Is yours big enough,because My friend wants a Ferrari



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    The lack of any significant updates since the announcement is slightly concerning. Also, I would like to know what a roll back to a more bland version of Vanilla will entail.

    Boards would be a huge loss but a bit more engagement from the staff asking for money might help speed up the subscription rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭Genghis


    I'm reading this as sarcastic observational commentary about the effort many posters seem to put in to doing, what is essentially, nothing.

    If you don't wish to subscribe you achieve that by doing nothing. It is the status quo. Despite this, some seem to feel the need to share their justification for doing nothing, as if to ensure they won't somehow be charged if they didn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    It's no even a week yet... (Well that's when I've noticed). Patience.

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,200 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The initial few days are vital, the first push and the follow up. If that is missed then its not going anywhere. The whole site should be banner headlines saying what is needed and what they are doing. Its more a depressed 'giz a couple of bob mate' approach though. Waiting a week (or more) to get a flicker of response is not the way to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭mossie


    100% agree on this. I subbed for 6 months but would be happy to so more if there was a bit more clarity coming from Odhran et al. Also what the rolled back Vanilla will be like is a concern and will have a bearing for myself, and I am sure for others. More contact from the bigwigs would be welcome.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,092 ✭✭✭✭con747


    When I subscribed I said I'd give @Boards.ie: Odhran & @Boards.ie: Mike 2 weeks to spell out the road map before I started questioning them here about the way forwards. I wish more could do the same but everyone is different and some will want information now. A week yesterday since it was announced so I would hope there is a plan being drawn up since then.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I think what some people are trying to do (myself included) is provide feedback to @Boards.ie: Odhran as to why they may not currently subscribe and what could be done to help increase subscriber count if actions were taken.

    My view is this: There has been an appeal for help. For vague reasons. There has been vague promises of changes to come, but unclear what. There was a promise for increased engagement which has not happened. There has been a threat that site could close in weeks if a certain figure isn't raised, but no clarity on this.

    A bit more openness and engagement from the owner would go a long long way to helping people on the fence feel more comfortable in subscribing. I think it is a valid concern on the way the owner has treated this place that subscriptions could be just a way to make a small bit of money before shutting the site down anyway. Nothing about what has happened in the last week or so has shown me anything that the owners are actively interested in saving this site, it's been so ham-fisted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    The thing is it isn't about the money. If there was some sort of engagement along the lines of "we hear the community feedback and if you subscribe, we can pursue xyz improvements".

    Instead, it's "we have implemented some terrible decisions that led to lots of users leaving the site. Give us your money and we will continue ignoring feedback and roll back to an even worse version of the site".

    That's what doesn't make sense. I've been here 20 odd years and can afford the sub, but it isn't about the money, it's the fact that the owner just seems completely disinterested. Why am I putting extra money in his pocket for that?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    @Boards.ie: Odhran @Boards.ie: Mike

    To summarise:

    So far, these are the suggestions Boards' users have made:

    1. Make the notice more visible.

    2. Spell out the Plan of Action.

    3. A bunch of people with technical expertise have offered practical help.

    4. Hand Boards to the community, rather than close it.

    5. Start a GoFundMe page.

    6. Set up Carrier billing to donate.

    7. Add an option to pay with PayPal

    8. Sell Boards' themed T-shirts, hoodies, pint glasses and other merchandise.

    9. Find corporate sponsors and reactivate the "Talk to" pages.

    10. Do a raffle, similar to the one done to raise funds for health workers during Covid, where the prize was a cottage (corporate sponsors would have to be found for the prize).

    Questions people have raised:

    1. What's the money for, exactly?

    2. What will the site look like with basic Vanilla?

    3. What's the P.o.A.?

    4. Why isn't Odhran engaging? (Re Mike, my personal guess is that he works part time).

    5. Are there any other ways to donate, tather than subscribe?

    Other questions:

    1. What will happen to the data if the site closes? Will it be archived, sold, deleted?

    2. Will users have the chance to delete/download their own data?

    I've probably missed a few points, please let me know if I have (Thanks, @dulpit, @jj880, and @RoyalCelt 🙂).

    Post edited by New Home on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The only other regular issues/bits I've seen here have been people asking:

    1. If they can use carrier billing to subscribe
    2. If there was a way to donate rather than subscribe.

    But I think you've covered it well @New Home here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,963 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    This sums up my feelings entirely.

    I actually have paid for 6 months, but the more we don't hear a single thing from @Boards.ie: Odhran or @Boards.ie: Mike, the more I'm regretting it - it is looking ever more like a last-ditch debt-mitigating measure before just shutting the site down (I won't call it a money-grab, as it is voluntary at the end of the day, but it's not far off IMO)

    I'm one of the ones who spent the last six months (or year, or more?) reporting bugs, bots, spammers, AI posts etc etc, mostly into the void as far as I could tell (the spammers/trolls/bots etc were mostly blitzed by the ever dedicated mods behind the scenes, God bless their cotton socks) - there was almost no engagement on how they might be prevented from clogging up the whole site overnight, every night, or how the site might be fixed from being borderline unusable - to the point where most of us just gave up reporting in the end, it was a Sisyphean task of epic proportions.

    And if it is a genuine fund-raising venture to give them breathing space to reinvent boards.ie, then ignoring the countless posters telling them their posts are not visible, people have to actually go looking for the posts - and ignoring all the posts asking for the most basic outline of a short/medium term plan - and worst of all, putting up those posts begging for subscribers without having a payment method ready to go 🙄 - all suggest a naivete and cack-handedness that wouldn't inspire faith in a donor.

    I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I can't see this ending well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,285 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Carrier Billing? More like Carrier Pigeon at this stage…

    Not your ornery onager



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    That's about the way I think about it too. I've initially went for a month sub, and then paid for 6 months. I like this site, all pros cons considered on my side and still I would love this project keep going. I came across Reddit thread about board's situation and there was plenty good posted. It would be a shame to let it go. And that comes from someone who isn't Irish, but this site gave me way too much over the years, so I'll keep subscribing regardless of outcome. Still money well spent. There's few posts here saying that they got much more than the sub is worth from boards over the years. Same for me.

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Not going to happen, there is no road map, how are they going to fix what they f1cked up for years ? no plan, just give us money ?

    Who's to say they don't just take the money and run and make a nice tidy profit ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,092 ✭✭✭✭con747


    Do you not have a bike to fix. As I said numerous times I saved more than enough this year to not be arsed losing €50 and if people won't pay €1.50 a week for a month and see if there is a plan to get the site back on track well it probably will fail.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Don't mention the bike ffs lol

    The thing is the few people that might be interested in saving a few bob won't be enough to save the site so throwing money into a sinking ship isn't the solution, there needs to be a long term plan. No one has seen it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,884 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It's as simple as this for me. No problem helping out Boards in theory, but when it's matched with the vague yet ominous mention of a big, seemingly regressive change to the website it certainly gives pause. There hasn't really been any extra information on what this entails - I know Mike is certainly busy, but I don't believe it was addressed in Odhran's Q&As either. A lot of us were here for the disastrous, months-long roll out of the Vanilla platform and have seen what 'basic Vanilla' looks like pre customisation (it's a long way from classic Boards). Paying while the site potentially gets worse isn't exactly the most appealing pitch.

    A lot of key functionality and identity of the website - as glitchy and frustrating as it currently is - only exists due to the customisation, or so we've been led to believe. What are we losing / gaining by dumping it? What does it look like?

    I know a lot of people reckon 'it's only 50 quid for the site's survival'. Fair enough, but I don't think it's in any way unreasonable to ask for some extra information on what exactly the website we're supporting with that 50 quid is going to look like. And, when there's an urgent plea for money, you'd imagine that at least someone asking for that money would be on hand to answer what are IMO pretty straightforward questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,285 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    So, you're saying the bike site needs a replacement engine rather than a rebuild?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,491 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Yeah, I can only agree with what a number of posters have said.

    I love boards and would hate to see it go under and fifty a year isn't much.

    But there's been so much not clarified. Okay, it's only how ever many Euro, but you want to feel you are giving it over for a credible reason.

    If the matter was so urgent - then where was the email campaign, why is there no notification on the landing page still on desktop a week later, why wasn't there some sort of social media blitz or something last week: when outside interest in the site was higher than in a long time? You'll never have more attention and goodwill than last week.

    I appreciate those involved might be busy and I wouldn't expect them to be popping in any trying to answer all the questions in the thread, but there's external things that weren't taken care of - which makes me wonder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Just like going to garage around here, most mechanics with no real knowledge give the same advice.

    Hit the switch to keep the lights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭archfi


    Yeah, lack of communication is still a very big problem with boards.ie owner.

    I understand the only reason the place is still open is because he put his money where his mouth is whatever the rights and wrongs of boards.ie being cashed out and bought by a businessman in the first place. So keep that in mind.

    It would have survived maybe thrived if it had been entrusted with the userbase and I'm pretty sure the hosting/server costs for a proper forum software platform and hosting would have been covered by donations.

    But the initial cashing out by the original owners put paid to that (I didn't follow the ins and outs of what happened so feel free to correct)

    We'll just have to wait and see but I'll echo others requesting the most basic of comms on the main issues the money collected so far will fix/help, or if it will at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,679 ✭✭✭corkie


    @Arghus why wasn't there some sort of social media blitz or something last week

    You just reminded me, I should probably boost my social media post again? 15th July was the last time I recreated the post. But people on social media don't really care about the status of a declining old Irish forum, that probably has outlived its usefulness in the current online world!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,469 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Everything seems to be back of fag packet knee jerk reactions here. It's really unprofessional.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,765 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Good synapsis of where we are .

    To this and @dulpit , last answer I saw from Odhrán which I thanked was about the data question which a few of us had posed .

    Boards.ie: OdhranJul 11, 2025

    Mike mentioned to me that a few people asked whether private fora will remain private.

    Nothing is changing in that regard. To be very clear - all private conversations remain private - PM's, emails, phone numbers etc…. are not and will not be shared.

    If this was related more to a ‘What if Boards is no more…’ it still applies. We won’t be sharing any data. Let’s hope it doesn’t get there but in the event of that happening all details and process re destroying personal data will be shared in advance

    A bit worried that nothing has advanced much since then not have we heard anything more .

    I guess Mike is up to his eyes with subscribers who have different emails etc or maybe already looking for a new job , and who can blame him .

    But Odhrán should come back and update us then .

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