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Today I did something to my bike thread...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    one of these takes a lot of the hammering/stress out of fitting/removing press fit BB’s: I just found this on AliExpress: €16.42 | New Bicycle Bottom Bracket Bearing Remove And Install Tools MTB Road Bike BB Press Fit 24mm 30mm BB86/PF30/BB92/BB386 Repair Kit
    https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuMJHyI



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    I actually bought something like this first but all it did was tear the bearing race out of the bb leaving the shell in place. Ended up with the cruder tool and hammering to finish the job off. BB appeared to be held in with a locking compound which didn't help matters, I used grease on the replacement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    There is no upside for the end user only sh1tter performance and added cost; forgiveable in a carbon frame but utterly stupid idea in a metal frame.

    I'm fitting €15 hollowtech bb for years, simple durable and cheap without fcuking squeaking.

    https://wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets.html?srsltid=AfmBOoo36BRAJm75A744etyfP0OBux0_48eD6AfXkdm5Uqg9fxZ5sXRi

    A not cheap workaround. @Mefistofelino mentioned another good manufacturer recently; although he did have to hang off the spanners to hit the required torque

    You are not the first bike owner to assume their aluminium/steel frame had a standard English bottom brackets.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Just to explain my last comment a bit, regarding this tool. You have to start with the 24mm outer dimension piece as it is the only one that fits past the bearing race. Using this rips out the bearing making for a wider hole. Theoretically, you shoult be able to repeat the procedure with the 25mm piece in the new hole as that is the size of the hole after stripping the bearing race. Didn't work for me as there was additional plastic in there preventing the insertion and proper seating of this bit.

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    Solution, one of these and a hammer, which is what I saw on any of the press fit BB extraction videos I looked at on youtube

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    To be fair, the press did a good job for getting the new BB installed. Again, having looked at a few videos and read a few horror stories, I did one side at a time to minimise the risk of the central section not meeting correctly. Given they're greased rather than using a locking compound this time, I expect replacing them next time to be easier.

    Not impressed with the fact you have to destroy a component rather than disassemble it in order to get it out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    A not cheap workaround. @Mefistofelino mentioned another good manufacturer recently; although he did have to hang off the spanners to hit the required torque

    https://www.cemabearing.be/en

    Would rate it above the Wheels Manufacturing one (and I like the WM one)

    There is a tenth circle of hell invented for whatever ballbag invented press-fit bottom brackets. Hard to imagine that one day, somebody on their bike went "I'm having a really nice spin but do you know what would make it better? An annoying creak."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    It was a financial controller after squeezing the life and budget from the engineering department.

    As the auditor standing outside his vintage Mercedes coupe said " the last one of these built before they put some **** like me in charge"



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Good to know @Mefistofelino Will definitely look at one of these next time I'm changing the bottom bracket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    PF BBs are fine as long as the frame is manufactured properly.
    If the hole in the BB shell is not round or if the NDS and DS are misaligned, thats when creaking and premature bearing wear happens.

    There are benefits of PF BBs such as allowing far wider and chunkier BB areas of the frame and less drag than traditional threaded BBs.

    I run an old Trek with a threaded BB and a Supersix Evo with a PF BB and both have been flawless for maybe 8k km in all weathers without being touched..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,481 ✭✭✭cletus


    Taught my youngest fella how to change a chain on his bike. As always, the time is doubled, but so is the enjoyment



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    To be fair, the old BB lasted very well for about six years until it failed. New setup is working well, though the front mech now seems to need further adjustment as dropping from big ring to small ring is only happening on second trimming click on lever. I've bought a new jagwire cable set so that's the next job.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




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