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Developed an Interest in My Neighbour

  • 15-06-2025 09:28PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭


    Long story short, I have been in a relationship with my partner for the past 13-years.

    We moved to a new accommodation early last year. We identified that a neighbour in a block directly across from us was gay, not least because of Pride flags in the windows and often seeing him with different men on his balcony. Thought nothing of it, really - except until last January. At that time, my bf and I decided to use the residents gym. Occasionally I would see that neighbour enter the gym and I grew more and more attracted to him. My bf even made jokes at the time that he'd like to watch he and I have sex together. I dismissed those interests, but I privately started to fancy that neighbour more and more.

    That started in January. Fast forward to April and I decided to download Grindr and try to find that neighbour. It wasn't hard, and after a while I summoned the courage to message him. We met in a local pub and later went home and only kissed, spent time in bed together - no intercourse. We have since met twice in the last 2 months - with the same outcome. We probably would have met more if not for how busy he is with work and friends.

    The problem is that I keep thinking about him - almost obsessively. When we met last time, the neighbour said that I was "dramatic" in my attempt to meet him, but as he likes me physically, we met anyway.

    But I keep wanting to meet him, and I'm always hoping he'll message me. Sometimes I message him with something just for the sake of talking to him, even though it doesn't achieve anything.

    The neighbour said that he would like me to tell my bf, as we both know the bf probably wouldn't have an issue with it.

    But I feel the issue is much deeper than that. Whilst the neighbour isn't interested in me romantically, it seems, I seem to be the case with him.

    That means I run the risk of wrecking two relationships at the same time - and that's where I'm totally stressed as to what to do here.

    That's the long and short of it, but happy to provide more detail if people want it. This issue is consuming my mind for the past 8-weeks now.

    Post edited by HildaOgdenx on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭charlessmith22


    Its sounds like you feel dead inside your own skin and home. You've created a life for yourself that you're clearly miserable in that you're willing to blow it all up for a bit of a dopamine rush. Sorry thats where your life has ended up. I'd suggest therapy to the bottom of these issues and to try find some inner happiness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    Sounds like he's just interested in you sexually. Is that worth potentially destroying what you have?

    Are you basing that your partner will be OK with you basically cheating on one jokey observation he made once? Or have you an open relationship? If it's the former, I think you're just using his joke as an excuse that he'll be OK with it.

    How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot?

    You know very little about the neighbour so what you're feeling is not love or anything like it- you're sexually attracted to him too. That's fine, but be honest with your partner.

    FFWIW , I think throwing away what you have on a crush is daft. The neighbour has made it clear he's not really interested in a relationship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,128 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    OP, it's very clear from your previous thread that you have compulsive tendencies and tend to fixate on people. I'll reiterate the advice I gave you in that thread - you need to do some major work on your boundaries (or lack thereof).

    I'll leave it at that, as I somehow doubt you're going to take any of the advice you're going to get on board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    I agree with you that I need to set boundaries and make sure I keep to those, but it's one of those things that's easier said than done - particularly if it's not something you're very good at for practically decades.

    I think it's unfair to say I'd never take advice on board, though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 758 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Assuming the partner you refer to in the first line of the OP is the same partner you referred to in your previous thread, you have some very serious reflecting to do on the way your actions are affecting him.

    You are cheating on him. You can dress it up whatever way you want, but you know full well that if you really believed that he wouldn't have a problem with your trysts with the neighbour you would have told him about it before now.

    He has put up with a lot already. You need to be mature and sit him down for what might be a very difficult conversation. Take responsibility for your actions and see if he wants to work through this or if it's the last straw. No begging or excuses.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    Yes, it is the same partner.

    I don't see it as "cheating" because I have met that neighbour now only 4 times in the last 4 months (the latest being last Thursday evening). All we do is kiss. I'm certain that the boyfriend would understand, but it's just a lack of courage on my part to bring it up. At most all we have is an intimate friendship.

    What's a bigger problem for me is how obsessed I've become with that neighbour. These days I'm getting very jealous of this other guy he repeatedly brings back to his apartment every weekend. I know, because I often see this guy in the balcony - and sometimes in the area itself on weekends. Thankfully it doesn't appear they are in a relationship because, as I say, I'm still meeting this guy albeit not as regularly as I would like. I'm thinking about the neighbour constantly.

    But this jealousy issue is consuming my week at this stage, to an unhealthy degree. Neither my boyfriend nor this other guy knows the intensity of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Move apartment, you owe it to everyone including yourself



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,484 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Is there a reason why you're not happy with your life as it is that you need to distract yourself from it? You've said before that you are aware that you have a tendency to obsess about things.

    You're saying your new obsession has reached an 'unhealthy degree'. Now seems to be the time that you look at working on how to manage that tendancy to obsess. Because chances are you will eventually swap the obsession with this guy with something else.

    Also, if you don't believe you're cheating you don't need courage to say anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 758 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Have you told your partner that you are meeting this other man and kissing him and cuddling with him in a bed?

    If you were sure that this wasn't cheating you wouldn't need courage to be honest.

    Completely apart from the betrayal of your partner's trust, you need help. You have a pattern of poor decision-making in the context of obsessive relationships.

    There is something very amiss with you that is behind your decision-making. You need an outside perspective on it, or you will continue hurting people close to you.

    Think about how hurt you were when a mere acquaintance didn't spend enough time with you. Now imagine how hurt your partner will be by your actions. I'll say it again: You have to be honest with him, difficult as it might be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    Unfortunately I do have a tendency to swap obsessions, usually between people.

    I would become obsessed with one guy (not necessarily sexually, it could simply be friendship-related), then as that decays or becomes old, I find another to become obsessed with - and the cycle continues. As unusual as it sounds, it's a very, very addictive feeling. You know it isn't right, that it's probably harmful - but you enjoy over-thinking about this person to an obsessive degree. It's difficult to explain, and I don't know why I keep doing it.

    The funny thing is that the people I do obsess with usually have no idea that I do, and that they like me personally a lot - hence why they keep meeting me.

    But yeah, I don't know the explanation for it but it keeps happening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    No, I haven't told him.

    I know my decision-making is poor, at times, I accept that. Very often reckless.

    I have already come up with an idea to "normalise" my relationship with the neighbour i.e. to act on what my boyfriend has sarcastically suggested (i.e. to organize a time with the neighbour to appear in the residents gym at the same time as us, and have my bf approach the neighbour and say how his bf (me) is interested in him / can he pass his number onto me etc.). This was jokingly said by my bf, but if that could be 'acted' out, it means I can see the neighbour and end this ugly situation once and for all.

    It wouldn't end my obsession-based behaviour, though, but I don't think that will ever go away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 758 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    I have no idea how to respond to that in a helpful or constructive way.

    You are not thinking straight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    What about what I said was "not thinking straight"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭SteM


    This is not going to help solve your underlying issue, but you seem to want to put more effort into spending more time with your neighbour than you do working on that.

    If feel sorry for your BF to be honest, he's just being manipulated by you at this stage and you can't even be honest with him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭con747


    OP I think some therapy might be badly needed here if you think lying in bed with another person kissing away while the boyfriend is clueless is beyond belief IMO.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    If this were a standard heterosexual relationship, you'd be right.

    But in gay relationships, it's very common for a less 'hard-line' approach to what happens among other men. Whilst I know what I'm doing isn't exactly right, I'm 100% certain the boyfriend would eventually accept it / wouldn't mind it. It wouldn't be a black and white case, as is suggested here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭con747


    I was more referring to this "Unfortunately I do have a tendency to swap obsessions, usually between people.

    I would become obsessed with one guy (not necessarily sexually, it could simply be friendship-related), then as that decays or becomes old, I find another to become obsessed with - and the cycle continues." about needing therapy the rest is just wrong IMO.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,202 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Well if you are so sure then tell him all about it and see how that works out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭SineadSpears


    In the 13yrs together, have you & your boyfriend ever brought anyone else into the relationship before?

    If not, then I sounds like the comment of him watching you have sex with another guy was just a harmless fantasy. No harm in that. But you took it upon yourself to make a move on the neighbour - which is straight up cheating.

    Kissing (definitely), or even just flirting messages to another person while in a relationship is cheating, however much you may try to downplay it.

    If it is something that you both have done before, then I still think you crossed the line by acting on it without your bf being involved. I don't think he meant for you to go out and test the waters behind his back before maybe then asking him to join in the fun.

    Ask him and see how that conversation goes down.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 758 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    OP, is any part of your mind at all occupied with how your sneaking around will affect your partner? You're very focused on getting away with it and making sure things work out in your favour. Are you at all concerned with whether your partner will feel hurt? Betrayed? Or is it, as it appears, all about you?

    Read back over your other thread about the chancer from the Faroe islands. Remind yourself how deeply you felt those perceived slights. He was an acquaintance you fancied, there was no real relationship between you. And still his callous disregard for your feelings drove you to very emotional reactions.

    Your partner isn't just an acquaintance. He believes he is in a committed relationship with you. You're living together. Maybe you have plans for your future together, maybe he believes you two have a special connection. Can you acknowledge to yourself how deeply he will feel this betrayal? (You might continue to tell yourself that he'll be fine with it but you know he will be very hurt. If you honestly believed he wouldn't mind you wouldn't be sneaking around like this.) Can you empathize at all with how he will feel when he realises that his relationship isn't what he thought it was? Or can you really not see past your own gratification?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,484 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    So you've explained why you obsess, but the fact is you want to stop obsessing. You haven't managed to figure that out. The only way you can stop is to change the target of your focus and start obsessing about something else.

    Either you're not at all happy with your life, to the point that you need to distract yourself desperately from it, or there is some other reason for it. But the fact that you're in such denial about your cheating adds more weight to the not happy with your life theory.

    You said yourself it's reached unhealthy levels and you can't manage it, so the only sensible thing to do is to work through it with a professional. This has been suggested to you before we. Whether you take the advice or not is up to you if course. But you have no other way of getting a handle on this part of your personality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    It looks like you're just looking for advice on how to dampen the obsession slightly rather than stop obsessing.

    Reading your more recent posts, you seem to enjoy the obsessing.

    It is an addiction of sorts, and as it is affecting your life, in the same way that drug or alcohol addiction might affect that addict and their families. If you acknowledge the addiction, the buzz you get from obsessing, and then, more importantly, want to do something about it- admit you have a problem and need help- then you should go to therapy.

    You might have done the admitting to an issue here, but not the admitting to needing help. Noone can help you with that tbh. Just like any other addict, you need to come to that realisation yourself and actively try and overcome and address your problem (I don't mean this neighbour problem, BTW, I mean your obsessing problem generally)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    No, because I trust that he would accept my behaviour. At least because of his comments to date about his fantasy about me being with this other guy. I understand that some posters here believe this wasn't sincere, but knowing him so long I believe it to be true. There would probably be an initial 'bumpy' phase but that would pass. I could be wrong of course but that's the way it appears to me.

    Either way, and irrespective of his response, I want to continue meeting the neighbour.

    I just need to curb my obsessive habits (checking up on him, seeing if he has guys around etc.). Once I accept that he and I are simply friends with some kind of minimum benefit, then I can control the obsession and try to leave it at that. I do hope that I can somehow introduce my boyfriend to him in a way that allows me to continue doing this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 758 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Now it's just starting to look like you're enjoying the drama and intrigue of cheating on your boyfriend.

    Your obsessive behaviour is the least of your problems, I think.

    It has been said in this thread a number of times and here it is again: If you really believed that your boyfriend would be ok with it you would have had this conversation with him by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 758 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    "Either way, and irrespective of his response, I want to continue meeting the neighbour."

    I don't care who I hurt, I'm going to keep doing whatever I want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    Again, you're taking the worst possible motive. Some situations are layered and complicated.

    It's not as simple and reductionist as you are suggesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭Tork


    So why start a thread here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭friendship_issue


    To receive genuine advice.

    But that doesn't mean I should accept just any interpretation of events that always makes me look bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,411 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    You have on every thread ignored all advice given. It seems you really just what confirmation of your own thinking. That's not going to happen because there is something terribly astray here. Your OH needs to be told absolutely everything about how you feel and what you're thinking. If you're so confident tell him now. See what happens. He deserves some respect and an opportunity to move on from his relationship with you if necessary.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭Tork


    I also think that you aren't being genuine when you say you want help. In the older threads, you refused to even entertain the idea of getting professional help. Apart from being bloody-minded about it, I think it's because you don't want to change that part of your life. It didn't take you long to find someone new to crush on once Faroe man moved on. There's a want in you, and you'd be bored if you didn't have the distraction and the drama. If you're not prepared to get to the bottom of that, fine. You need to be honest with yourself.

    I wonder what you're getting out of your relationship. Why are you in it? Convenience? Not being alone? It certainly doesn't seem to be enough for you, no matter how you try to twist it. Is it an open relationship you want and if so, is your partner up for that?

    You've just told us that we don't understand the way gay relationships work. If that's the case, maybe you need to be asking questions on a gay-related forum.

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