BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

The 45a runs from Bray DART station directly to Dun Laoghaire station as well doesn't it ?

The whole idea of a train is a service that runs at fixed times from a fixed location. If it is not going to do that then it needs to at least provide information, especially in July when there are a lot of tourists and people out of their regular itinerary.

But at usual, the customer comes last.

Is caring about timetables not basically caring about passengers too?

I think one of the worst feelings is knowing you are going to be late for something because despite you being on time to the bus stop, the bus showed up early and you missed it.

It is one of the reasons I hate the DB timetables. They are easy to read but the information they give isn't always useful. It also can make transfers a massive headache, especially if you are transfering from a high frequency service to a low frequency services. I am really hoping as BC continues to rollout that DB will consider changing their timetable format to more clearly show their timing points along the route, as well as interchange stops. I believe this is more or less what the GAI timetables show, and I think it is much more practical because of it.

A lot of drivers, including me, have left due to the Pressit box and the reluctance to change it. That's one of very few reasons I didn't enjoy it day to day

Yes very aware, one of my last journeys on the 15 I got a call to say I was two…TWO... Minutes ahead, so I asked him where I was and he replied 'Terenure Village' and I replied with 'and what's Terenure like at 5pm?'…he hung up, I was 16 minutes late by the time I hit Rathgar and he wouldn't regulate me 'Sure you've loads of running time left to get to Clongriffin' 🙃

Hospice operator launches High Court challenge to BusConnects corridor – The Irish Times

The High Court has permitted the operator of a hospice to challenge An Coimisiún Pleanála’s approval for the proposed BusConnects corridor from Kimmage to Dublin city centre.

The National Transport Authority’s (NTA) €4 billion BusConnects initiative seeks to transform bus services in Dublin through the construction of 12 new bus corridors, as well as the reorganisation of services on existing road infrastructure.

Several of the proposed bus routes are the subject of judicial review proceedings.

The challenge brought by Our Lady’s Hospice and Care Services DAC, which operates the facility of the same name in Harold’s Cross, Dublin 6W, arises from the NTA’s plans to build a 22-space car park on lands owned by the hospice.

According to court documents, the car park is planned in circumstances where the proposed Kimmage-to-city-centre bus corridor − which An Coimisiún Pleanála approved in May − will result in the loss of 10 existing car parking spaces on Harold’s Cross Road.

An Coimisiún Pleanála in May confirmed the NTA’s application for a compulsory purchase order of various lands, sought as part of the bus corridor’s development. The hospice’s lands, earmarked for the car park, are included in the compulsory purchase order.

The hospice operator says it was planning to build accommodation units for its healthcare workers on the land subject to the compulsory purchase order.

The hospice operator wants the court to quash An Coimisiún Pleanála’s decision granting permission to the NTA for the bus corridor. It also wants the court to quash the planning board’s approval of the compulsory purchase order.

On Monday, Mr Justice David Holland gave permission to Oisín Collins SC, for the hospice operator and instructed by O’Connell & Clarke Solicitors LLP, to bring judicial review proceedings against An Coimisúin Pleanála. The NTA is a notice party to the proceedings.

Making the application for permission, Mr Collins said having staff accommodation is now critical in the provision of medical services, an unfortunate reality of modern life.

In a statement to the court, the hospice operator claims An Coimisiún Pleanála’s decision to grant permission for the bus corridor is invalid and unlawful, as the provision of additional car parking spaces encourages private car use.

This is contrary to the policies and objectives of the Dublin City Development Plan 2022-2028, and the National Planning Framework, the hospice operator claims.

The hospice operator claims the NTA mistakenly identified the area subject to the compulsory purchase order as the location with “the least impact for the future development and operation of the hospice”.

The hospice operator says the opposite is true – in reality, those lands are the only lands it owns that could be developed in future.

Therefore, An Coimisiún Pleanála’s decision to grant permission for the bus corridor and related compulsory purchase order is invalid “by reasons of irrationality and error of fact”, the hospice operator claims.

The hospice operator also claims the approval of the compulsory purchase order is invalid as it interferes with its constitutional property rights.

The grant of permission and compulsory purchase order failed to have regard for statutory climate objectives, in accordance with the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Act 2015, the hospice operator further claims.

Mr Justice Holland adjourned the case to the end of the month.

Sorry, why are the NTA building car park spaces? Is this to replaces ones "lost" by the corridor.

Finglas area councilors are now talking about the F spine in 'September or October' so we must still be a go, which is positive news.

Of the three F buses the F3 might make most sense to make 24hr since it covers the most territory but is less direct. The 24 giving a proper airport connection is great too. It's barmy that up until recently Finglas residents would have to get a bus to town amd change to get the airport even though they can mostly see the runway from their upstairs windows. Realistically the message was drive or get a taxi (and pay 30 quid for the 4km journey), hopefully that'll change.

I'm Still hoping that the N8 will get off the M50 and stop at Chalrlestown when it's launched, having so much motorway running for a city bus is silly, nobody can access the motorway on foot. And the present proposed route doesn't allow for much connection it's basically an express Blanch to airport route as is.

I am really hoping that like the other previous spines all 3 routes will be 24h. Has there been any indication so far that not all 3 would be 24h?