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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    There were subscribers here in the past (some still were even up to now). I was one of them. I don’t remember there being any cliquey behaviour stemming from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 701 ✭✭✭Dogsdodogsstuff


    This is a probably a terrible idea, but ive just taken my ritalin! Its basically about trying to create a community that self regulates and sets the tone, not just leave it to the mods. That is afterall how society works, people put manners on other people based on the accepted practises/etiquette of that culture. Its just harder online where people can hide behind their keyboard.

    Probably fair to say that some of the more argumentative or “OTT” posters on here might be chasing dopamine without even realising it. For some, the rush of conflict, drama, or “winning” an argument scratches an itch. There’s even a kind of gambling element to it how far can you push it before getting banned?

    So here's a mad idea that might be fun and help Boards.ie financially. What if banned users had the chance to appeal their ban but only if a certain percentage of paid members vote to let them back in?

    Say on a first ban, they need 5% of paid users to back them. If they’ve been banned before or its a really serious breach, maybe it goes up to 10%, 15%, etc. The more they push their luck, the more effort (and support) they need to come back. Maybe paid members need less votes to get back in or some sort of benefit if they are being warned ? Or only paid members can use this appeal ?

    If they have lots of like-minded mates willing to pay to support them, then boards.ie makes money and the banned person has literally paid for their warning by convincing others to subscribe.

    Obviously there are risks. One issue I can see is where two paid members fall out ,especially if one feels harassed or followed by another across the forums (I’ve had that happen before, and while it’s hard to prove, it’s definitely off-putting). So yeah, I get there’s potential for abuse if not handled carefully.

    But if it worked? It might take some pressure off mods and introduce a kind of community justice. Imagine a “Gladiator Arena” subforum where banned posters can plead their case and face the judgement of the crowd. Could be chaos. Could be gas.

    Some bonus ideas to keep it fair and (hopefully) fun if something like this was ever trialled:

    • Anonymous voting – so there’s no pressure or backlash for supporting or rejecting someone.
    • One appeal per year/account – stops it being spammed or turned into a constant game of reentry.
    • Weighted votes – maybe long-term paid members’ (currently annual) votes carry more weight to prevent pile-ons from brand new accounts.
    • Moderator veto – even if the crowd votes someone back, mods can still block it if there's a solid reason.
    • Quarantined arena – keep it separate from the rest of the forum, like a “Trial by Fire” section where people can appeal bans and make their case.
    • Transparency dashboard – optional, but might help if there's a clear log of why people were banned, what happened in the vote, etc.
    • Exceptions - Rereg and bots etc excluded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,228 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I can't access my sign up email here anymore, can I use the email now attached to my card? @Boards.ie: Mike

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,133 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    Domain expires tomorrow 😮

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Funding is available, but I'm going to wait to see what the "vanilla Vanilla" platform is like. I think the current platform isn't any good, and I fear it will be worse after the changes.

    Also it's been said many times, but I'd consider changing "important announcement" and "good news" to "SUBSCRIBE NOW, SAVE BOARDS!!!!111" or similar.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    FFS It’s fifty quid. What do you want, a prospectus and a strategic development plan ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    No, I'm saying the exact opposite. The poster I quoted wanted amnesty from being banned/modded if they signed up and posted things that upset people — they wanted preferential treatment for their sub, while also complaining repeatedly that they themselves were upset by the mods treatment of them. My point is that if they want preferential treatment for being a subscriber, then surely any other subscriber that they're talking to would have equal rights to be protected from their aggressive/abusive posting style too.

    So, obviously, the rules should apply to everyone equally, sub or not. People should be responsible for their posting style, and if they post with a style they expect will upset people, then maybe either the site is not for them, or their should adjust their style.

    It's really really not difficult to moderate yourself to not be abusive, if you actually want to.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,568 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    That would be nice, but the most basic level of transparency would be better.

    The question still hasn't been addressed as to whether the new funding model is in part meant to cover the cost of 3rd party AI crawlers.

    Why is it not answered? It's not even a big deal if they say yea because almost every small site is falling foul of it



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,714 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I think there should be a nominal sign up fee, say €2.50.

    Every time those trolls rereg they should have to pay for the privilege.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,354 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    It's all a ruse, make a quick buck before the website shuts down



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,491 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Tbf, I'm leaving myself open to that after a lonw-winded post like that.

    I don't think it's much to ask for a bit more information if they're asking for money. Like how realistic is it that the site can survive if we get to this number. It's all very vague.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Could you guarantee that a user with 20k posts has no PI data in their posts?

    Cos if you can't and don't delete the data, you could be in breach of GDPR. Actually safer to delete it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,106 ✭✭✭✭con747


    If people are afraid Odhran & Mike are doing this to rip us all off and spend it on cocaine and hookers in Ibiza then either don't pay a sub or pay a monthly sub, I took the risk based on my wanting the site to survive. If €6 is going to hit you in the pocket then then don't give it. Sorted.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,568 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    If they were spending it on coke and hookers they'd probably have more people signing up

    Boards should move to Kick /s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 459 ✭✭shovel


    All those years ago, when I first discovered boards,we only had dial up so its USP was that as it was text based,it loaded up faster (relatively!) than other places.

    You get used to this place awful quick!

    Even though I haven't posted much,I have spent time here every day since

    This site has helped me so much that I am glad to contribute.

    I am doing this to keep the site going and do not expect anything back .

    Vanilla is an issue,and I hope they fix it

    To the undecided. I say give the site a chance for a year and see then.

    Hopefully they get enough subs so they can do a proper change to an all singing/dancing platform.

    Remember like the Homestore ad.

    Once it's gone..

    It's definately gone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,568 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    There are already chancers on Reddit trying their luck.

    Announcing this in the way that Boards chose to do is mental, Even if it was the plan, it is mental



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Great post. It sums up what’s important. We can crib about Mods, Vanilla, etc. That’s for another day. I’d just hate to think that boards.ie would not be around for another generation, a relatively safe and open-minded space on the internet with a wide variety of personalities and views rather than some AI and algorithm driven commercial cesspit.

    I threw in the €50 without giving it a second thought, and with no expectation that boards.tomorrow would be any different to boards.yesterday or boards.today. And as I said in a previous post and a pm to @Boards.ie: Mike if there is a way to do so I’m happy to make a larger donation. I genuinely believe that the survival of boards.ie is important.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Hibernicis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,961 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Is the rule relaxation site wide or only in CA?

    I'm one of the 2 who were carded the other day for calling Marcus Rashford a goof.

    I have much stronger feelings regarding Jadon Sancho that I'd like to vent...

    PS although I agree the card was OTT for that particular insult, the Mod who issued it was just following the guidelines and was actually very fair and decent when I replied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭757TFFIU


    I do think this is a fair question. While it's evident from the low number of posts I've made that I'm more a reader than a contributer, I would be happy to throw in €50 for the annual plan to keep the forum alive. However, I'm not going to go down the route of spending €50 if the forum is in it's final 24 hours. That's just the equivalent of burning cash. Can it be clarified if the domain has been preserved beyond tomorrow please?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 765 ✭✭✭ngunners


    No offense as you've clearly put some thought into the idea, but I have zero interest in voting on whether someone should stay banned or not.

    I will gladly pay to support the site but I don't care about any of the "benefits" mentioned previously nor do I want to get involved in petty quarrels - I know it would be voluntary but you're essentially asking people to pay to be moderators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,133 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    The reason I wouldn’t pay a sub though is that it’s not like this is some small startup where things grew and got out of hand. It’s been dying for years with imo multiple bad decisions being made which led us to where we are now. The Gemini search is now just the final nail in the coffin so while all the data contained in the posts would be nice to be able to keep there’s no point keeping it on life support delaying the inevitable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,517 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Have you not heard of a non-profit organisation?

    That's what Boards should always have been tbh, in accord with the community spirit it was founded in.

    But somewhere along the way, it got profitable for a while, the vultures circled and Adverts got snatched away, a site which would not have existed without the Boards community. Someone made money out of that and left the hulk of boards.ie a pauper.

    I own a Humax Foxsat-HDR satellite box (actually, I'm on my third, with two still active daily.) Which came out in 2009. The community support for that, even in its aged state today, is amazing. People hacked the firmware and made it do all sorts of things the manufacturer never intended, and then provided support to users in forums for years - to this day. They're still hosting websites providing help, and hosting updated firmware. They're still actively updating channel lists and such like. Not a single person has ever made a single penny out of this. It's all done for the greater good. Not everything has to be driven by profit.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭✭corkie


    Just paid the yearly sub! Was reluctant at first because dread going back to basic vanilla site.

    No Google Pay/Pay Pal?

    People you don't need to prove you paid, by posting receipts screenshot that could be altered anyway. Edit: - Just look at your roles under account name on the left hand side.

    I had to scroll through over 20 pages of waffle to see if anything important was posted since last night.

    @Boards.ie: Mike @Boards.ie: Odhran Can a locked thread (no chat) be created just to let people know what is happening?

    Also if your looking to reduce hosting costs, (as many know I am big into ATProtocol/Bluesky) have ye consider running a forum on the platform. Nobody has created a forum platform on it yet but maybe an idea, and get noteriarty for doing so? You would still need to run a small server for private records because everything is public on it!

    Google search for "forums running on atproto or bluesky platform?" and AI response below!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    People are fond of the banning, that's not the direction boards should be going, talking about continuing old trends signals the lack of desire to change for the better. It's a lot to do with what got boards into the situation it's in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,856 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Is that €50 auto-renewed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    I’d respectfully suggest that a happy ending for €50 would warrant a trip to an STI clinic first thing Monday morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭littlefeet


    I'd have to think about it. I used to like current affairs and after hours, but current affairs seemed to have been taken over by the far right and the racists. The government and traditional media are suppressing information and gaslighting them, and they're tiresome, so I'm not sure about having a paid subscription.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 57,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro




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