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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yeh, shock horror, She spoke on the effect of sanctions in a debate about a motion on sanctions.

    Terrible woman altogether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,132 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,425 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That she has (and continues to) work on a basis of an enemy of the US is immediately someone to support.

    If you can't see that from her words and actions, you are missing something; or are ignoring it because you have your set view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I suspect her candidacy will suffer because of Higgins and also the left has problems in their own constituencies they didn't have just 7 years a go around sensitive issues. She'd just be more of the same mould of the pompous, holier than thou, champagne socialist preaching from upon high that Higgin's represents. I think many people are tired of that after 14 years tbh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Where did she 'support' Assad?

    Give us some back up for this allegation/insinuation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,425 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    By blaming the US for issues they weren't involved in and looking for sanctions to be removed on the baseless idea that Assad would be there forever.

    People can just read this, Francie. They don't need you to try and pretend she didn't say it.

    But anyway, the second SF announce whatever fossil or person they want out of their current position they're going to run, you'll be supporting them rather than defending Connolly. So why bother wasting your time now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,471 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Can you give any specific examples of this from her words and actions please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,425 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    See above.

    If you can't see that from her comments, you either have an issue with reading comprehension or an issue in ignoring stuff you don't want to see. Decide which.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Right, it is clear you have zero back up for your insinuations.

    Take care.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,425 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Other than her own words, you mean.

    You do a damn good job of proving my point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,132 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    By allowing herself to become a useful idiot for the Assad regime by visiting Syria as its guest, even while it was slaughtering its own people.

    What would be your view if an Irish politician currently visited, say, Tel Aviv as a guest of the Israeli regime?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Connolly endorsed claire daly in the MEP elections, daly is very outspoken about her support for murderous dictators like putin and assad, that and her voting record speak for themselves about her beliefs so id find it hard to believe connolly would actively endorse daly if she did not tacitly hold the same beliefs. She also didn't say a word against daly after it was revealed she had facilitated contact between the omagh bomber and russian intelligence services which is outrageous after publicly endorsing her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    If that politician came back singing the praises of the regime then I would look on that very poorly indeed.

    If that politician calls out the regime then bravely visiting a war torn dangerous country to see for yourself conditions on the ground and among those who have been your primary concern for your entire career - ordinary innocent civilians - then kudos on that politician.

    In her speech, did Connolly call out Assad?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Criticism of the US on behalf of those suffering on the ground amounts to treason against the US and the West

    No, blaming the US instead of the the ones actually responsible is pig-headed anti-westernism. The US supported (not led) forces may not have been saints and the US made mistakes in Syria (though they mostly are around not being interventionist enough as far as I'm concerned), but the idea that there is any equivalence whatsoever between them and the regime is frankly disgusting.

    Again, she manages to blame the west and its actions, strongly implying sanctions are the cause of mass displacement, instead of focusing on the actual cause of the situation in Syria - a bloodthirsty dictator propped up by Russian backing. There is no "including Assad", he is 99% responsible for all of this. But such a simple statement is seemingly beyond her



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Is the 'continued association' in the room with you now? What does the 'continued association' look like?

    She could simply choose not to appear on stage together with Daly and bloody George Galloway at events. That is within her power, but she chooses otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    No, 

    blaming

     the US instead of the the ones 

    actually

     responsible is pig-headed anti-westernism. 

    She very clearly pointed at the Assad regime and did not at any point take a side.

    Maybe talk to the victims of the US's interventions, see how far you get with watering down their 'bombing people into the acceptance of gifts'.

    Connolly cited Amnesty's reports on both Assad and US led forces in Syria.

    A while ago you told us US led forces were not in Syria - do you still hold to that?
    Is this an invention/lie?

    Syria: Unprecedented investigation reveals US-led Coalition killed more than 1,600 civilians in Raqqa ‘death trap’



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    She very clearly pointed at the Assad regime and did not at any point take a side.

    If she actually had the courage of which you claim, she would actually take a side against Assad. He is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Syrians (and a good chunk of Palestinians I might add). But instead she makes a short reference to him, and then pivots to highlight what she views as American malfeasance. If she had the courage of which you claim she would have said this while in Syria. Lambasting the US and Western forces from the safety of the Dáil is, in fact, an incredibly easy thing to do with no repercussions.

    The US involvement in Syria was not some colonist expansionist endeavour. The Russians, supporting Assad, used GPS data provided by international aid organisations to deliberately flatten hospitals and aid stations and yet none of this is mentioned. The entire conflict started because a significant portion of the country did not want to live under a brutal dictator any longer.

    Her angle is no different from the idiotic "the US should stop prolonging the war in Ukraine" takes you see today.

    And yes, I still say there were no US-led forces in Syria. Amnesty are grossly misrepresenting it. There were US supported forces and Amnesty's entire point seems to be "why don't we stop fighting and all just get along". This shouldn't be surprising given their proclamations that Ukrainian forces should stop stationing air defence inside cities 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,471 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    she would actually take a side against Assad.

    She very clearly called out him and what his regime was doing twice in that speech alone.

    If she had the courage of which you claim she would have said this while in Syria.

    There is courage and then there is reckless foolishness. She wanted to see conditions on the ground, went, saw them and laid the criticisms where she thought they lay.

    And that, contrary to propaganda was at the feet of Assad and his regime, and others contributing to the misery of ordinary people.

    In any conflict/war there is a hierarchy of blame and the US and the West have their share to take in Syria.

    NOBODY, including Connolly is suggesting the US or the West are primarily to blame. But I'm sure she'll be accused of that too.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Sanctions. I feel like the reason for the sanctions could have had something of an airing. Also by that logic why is she mentioning anything about "US led" forces actions, as they have nothing to do with sanctions.

    It's clear from her statement she is implying sanctions are the cause of the ruination of the country, and not the genocidal dictator the sanctions were aimed at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    Both the Sop Dems and Francie support her. She hasn't a hope!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Also by that logic why is she mentioning anything about "US led" forces actions, as they have nothing to do with sanctions.

    Ah, so she mentioned something not specifically related to the sanctions?
    I guess that rules out everyone who contributed to the debate from being President. Because they all spoke about things not related specifically to sanctions and gave their understanding of the situation in Syria and why it was the way it was. Normal debating in the Dáil in other words.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Connolly nominated. Absolutely delighted. She has a right good chance.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,319 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Connolly and the likes of Wallace and Daly are absolutely clear that the US and the West are to blame for everything.

    They want Ukraine to roll over and being overrun by Russia, they want dictators like Assad and the Ayatollahs to be left alone by the West to oppress their own people.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Did you read what I was replying to?
    You can't use the basis that the debate was about sanctions to excuse her weak commentary on the overall cause of the devastation when she happily talked about non-sanction related issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Hyperbolic generalisations.
    A word of warning/advice.

    If you want to throw that kind of sensationalist dirt at Connolly during the campaign, be careful it doesn't blow back in your face.

    A woman with a career long record of speaking out for the oppressed and marginalised attacked on false grounds will appeal to an awful lot of the Irish electorate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,319 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Nothing false in it, her type of naive foreign policy thinking leads exactly to those outcomes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yes I read what you said.

    The debate on sanctions veered off sanctions in many contributions.

    Connolly veering off is some sort of career defining atrocity with you though.

    It's sensationalism for the sake of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,624 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




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