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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "With Putin I said, "If you go into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the [expletive] out of Moscow. I'm telling you I have no choice."' He then claimed Putin responded: '"I don't believe you, no way"... and I said "way".'"

    I, for one, did not have Trump threatening World War 3 via a Wayne's World phrase on my 2025 Bingo card…

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    I've been given exclusive pics from this conversation:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,266 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Very presidential, and not at all racist 🙄

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I have little reason to doubt that Trump told those stories to his supporters in closed door fundraisers.

    However I do not believe that what he said was true or that anything remotely like what he describes happened anywhere outside of his imagination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Reckon she has guys on the side walls of the press briefing room who would jump all over the journo with a mere nod of her head, under the term, security, journo would be gone like a flash and never allowed back in.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Did you not see the parade a few weeks ago? We can barely march, let alone goose step.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    REPORTER: Yesterday you said you were not sure who ordered the munitions ordered to Ukraine. Have you figured it out?

    TRUMP: I haven't though about it

    REPORTER: What does it say that such a decision could be made without you knowing?

    TRUMP: I would know. If a decision was made I will know.

    Where's Jake Tapper when you he's needed?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Bribery and extortion in full view. Jfc...

    Thinking on this further, this is the use of tariffs as a punishment. It has nothing to do with the best economic policy for America.

    Post edited by everlast75 on

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,908 ✭✭✭threeball


    Not happy being King of America, he wants to be king of the world. The sooner other nations decide to ignore him and America the better it will be for everyone. Hes only laying a template for a more dangerous idiot to follow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Trump's German ancestry is showing in his random capitalization. That letter is outrageous in intent and threats, as well as being an offence against the American language.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Also; is this his new thing? Sending out photos of typed letters on White House letterhead?

    Tweeting on his Tesco-Value Twitter doesn't seem to get him any respect, and talking to the press never seems to go well for him. Perhaps this is an attempt by him to appear all grown-up and capable…without having to blunder his way though normal human interactions. Alas, the stupidity in the text almost always shines through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 28,401 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    German capitalises nouns. Trump capitalises randomly — nothing to do with his German ancestry.

    So far as I can find out, Trump speaks no language other than English, and he doesn't speak that very well. It's very unlikely that his errors in written and spoken English are the result of the influence of any other language.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,149 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    One advantage of Donald is that he reminds us of how bad things were and could get again if we continue down the hallowed path of greed.

    Post edited by SuperBowserWorld on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    ... all the subtlety of a semi literate mobster shakedown.

    It will take a complete reform of the political system in the USA for the country to undo the damage being done to international relations. Just a change of personnel would not be enough. Significant structural changes are needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Thank you for that erudition. I…oh never mind!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Threatening 50% tariffs on Brazilian copper is nuts. US importers will go elsewhare, importing more from places like Chile, and Brazil will export copper to countries which previously imported from Chile. Basically tariffing imports from one country of a globally traded standard commodity like copper just divcerts trade and makes it less efficient, largely by adding to logistics costs.

    I wonder will the US try to tariff Brazilian high-tech products, like the excellent aircraft made by Embraer? That might give an advantage to ricals in the small airliner market, most notable Bombadrier (Canada). 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    This period in American's period of history will get a lot of negative attention in future years. For various reasons. This is another one of those reasons that will leave a particular stain.

    The inimitable and highly principled Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories has been directly target by the Trump Administration in having sanctions imposed on her. Her crimes? calling out the US, its leaders and multinational corporations for their role on the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians.

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    She is a remarkable and principled woman and the world would be in a much better place if more of her kind were in leadership roles in the governments around the world.

    She is someone who is deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize but instead, is being threatened and tried to be silenced by the US. I imagine this action won't cost her a wink of sleep but will instead reinforce her certainty of her position.

    Imagine how these headlines are going to be viewed in years to come when Israels actions have been accepted as being Genocidal? A forever stain on the US and just one more on this administration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭newport2


    Trump doesn't give a toss whether any manufacturing ever moves back to the US or not, the only thing he cares about is what is currently being perceived by his supporters. He's playing the tough guy, putting it up to those foreigners ripping off the U.S of A. They laud him for it and that's his only objective.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    100%

    He thinks this plays well with his base and makes him look strong and dominant.

    He couldn't care less otherwise.

    An analysis I read the other day said that if the tariffs he's been talking about were actually implemented it would be an additional $1600/year cost for every single tax payer in the US.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I actually think he does. He takes the medieval view that a trade deficit mean that all your money is going abroad and this flow must be reversed. This concern is as nothing compared with his obsession with himself but it is something he's been consistent on. Obviously, he is intellectually incapable of understanding the situation and therefore will only make things worse.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    On some levels, I agree. He has a very simple zero sum approach to everything and in his mind a "Trade deficit" somehow means the US (and he considers himself to be the US now) is "losing".

    But infinitely more important to him is his ego and he will sacrifice anything and anyone to protect that, so the second he starts getting backlash from his followers he will drop tariffs as a thing and find something to get them singing his praises



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This is what I meant when I mentioned his obsession with himself. Actual policy will always play second fiddle to the cult of personality and the grift.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,421 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It's also why he's putting ridiculous, unrealistic and unworkable timeframes on getting manufacturing and pharmaceuticals back to the US. A realistic timeframe would be 5-7 years given how long it would take to construct factories, upgrade infrastructure, hire/train staff, get delivery frameworks set up etc. The issue is, once that would be completed and there's a big ceremony about the opening of these plants… Trump wouldn't be President. He wouldn't get to stand there and take the credit. He wouldn't get to force his acolytes out onto the public stage to make sure he gets all the credit for it.

    So he wants it all done in the next year or two or he's going to punish all these companies for not giving him his photo op.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I was unaware of that.

    But yeah, he does have ideas for what he wants to do to the country. Obviously, they're about the economic equivalent of saying "Can't we all just get along?" but they are there.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭yagan


    Also add in the lack of essential skill that the US doesn't have in some of the industries that it wants to reshore. TSCM had problems getting visas for the factories that they did instigate under the Biden plan. Some of those factories are still brownfield sites, plus the likes of TSCM will drag their heels giving away their one core asset for US protection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭newport2


    And who in their right mind would start a 5-7 year project costing billions that relies on Trump sticking to what he is currently saying this week for the next 3.5 years? (Assuming there will be an election in 2028 of course) Nobody and I think he knows that, which is why I think it's all about noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    I wonder if Trump's anti-immigration policies may have a positive effect on the rights of immigrants in the future? Imagine that he achieves his goal and all illegal migrants are deported. If the farming industry doesn't collapse, they will have to pay more to their workers, and they will have to get people from abroad with proper work permits and, presumably, pay them more than they were paying illegal workers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


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    So that is Brazil telling Trump to butt out. It covers a good few points - the original post by Trump was on social media, rather than a direct contact; don't tell us what to do; stay out of our legal system; and the US has a trade surplus with Brazil, not a deficit you ignorant fool. Nice, I hope it is a template for other countries.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Hoop66




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