Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Hmmm, and when Barron was born, Melania was not a citizen!

Is it though, when the media are reporting as per my post above?

It’s less stable than it was- it was always in a state of flux- and it still is- but with America backing away from supporting Europe militarily and taking on the world economically , it’s certainly less safe currently for Europeans at least - economically it’s also less stable at least for the forceable future

Nobody other than the U.S. consumer is going to be paying whatever that tariff may be. The only way they would not be is if those companies producing those goods moved from Europe to the U.S. to produce them.

Those companies set up their production in the E.U. for various reasons. In our case because it was cheaper to do so here than in the U.S. and because we had a well educated workforce capable of doing the job. Would those companies move back to the U.S. where none of that has changed, especially where the present morons in charge are intent on destroying what is left of their education system and up sticks and say goodbye to all their investment in the E.U. because of a 10% increase in the cost of their products to just the U.S.while leaving themselves at the mercy of a gang of grifters that have now increased their national debt to unsustainable levels who in all likliehood would soon start leaning on them mafiosa style ? I very much doubt it.

Trump can dress it up as a win for U.S. beef, pork, chicken and any other agricultural product he likes. It would play well to his MAGA states, but it would not gain them a red cent as due to the E.U. health and standards the E.U. will not be buying any of it. He can do the same for LNG, but again it would be meaingless. With Russian gas gone the E.U. needs LNG and the worry since the invasion of Ukraine has been where to get enough of it do cover for the loss of Putin`s gas.

That is an odd way to look at it. Trump set out to have zero tariffs, but to use the threat of them to get concessions from other countries and, as per his speech, to get rid of the negative balance of trade.

By 'accepting' 10% tariffs, the US are clearly failing to get what they want from the EU. This is going to lead to higher prices for the same goods. Trump promised to bring prices down and throughout this the claim was that deals would be done to avoid tariffs as the other countries had no other options.

I see this is a massive failure for Trump and the US. The EU are unwilling to give in and would accept 10% tariffs, which is a tax on the US consumer, rather than give up things like GMO standards etc,

And to get to that position, Trump threw away years of goodwill and trust.

The US doesn't need years of goodwill and trust. If it was a smaller country trying to deals with a bigger market, it might rely on trust and goodwill.

However, like it or not, US is the big dog, and the other dogs aren't going to throw a strop and say "no, you were mean the last time, we won't deal with you anymore".

I'm not sure if genius, or better off… 🤔

LOS ANGELES COUNTY, Calif. - An Iranian woman who has expressed support for President Donald Trump was detained by federal agents outside her home in Diamond Bar, California.

"Trump is not trying to do anything bad," said Arthu Sahakyan. "We understand what he's doing. He wants the best for the country. I'm just trying to make the best of it. I don't want any families to go through this. If they are, I apologize for what they're going through because it's hard."

Home surveillance video shows federal agents outside Sahakyan's home Monday. His wife, Arpineh Masihi, can be seen going inside their house to say bye to their four children.

"She came and kissed the kids and that was it," said Sahakyan. "That was the last time we saw her."

Federal sources tell Fox News that more than 130 Iranian nationals were detained in the United States last week.

"I'm very for [the United States vetting] Iranian nationals because of the sleeper cells," said Sahakyan. "I think it will resolve a lot of issues because we'll know exactly who's in here for what reasons, even though I miss [my wife] dearly. I think we could have a faster process [where they determine] she's not a radical, or tied to the crazies, let her out."

I've no doubt the irony sailed right over his head 😒

https://www.foxla.com/news/iranian-mom-who-supported-trump-federal-custody-her-husband-say-hell-still-support-maga-movement

Yes, it does. How do you think it became a "big dog?"