Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Aer Lingus absolutely should be listened to, as the second biggest operator at the airport and Irelands key connector to the US and also the operator of the “Dub hub”.

Hate to tell you but aviation is a 24 hour operation. At 02:00 in the morning, EI ops are operating as normal ensuring all their aircraft in America are turning around and loading up to come back. Or are making their way back ok.

The early wave of flights into Dublin are the big connectors. These are all creating jobs and employment for the local community.

It is vital that the airport can utilise its assets when it is required.

And plenty of airports also don't. We live on an island. We don't have a big train or motorway network than can get us to the next big European city in a few hours. An hour behind most of Europe and surrounded by water, but with a huge advantage of pre-clearance. I think the best way forward isn't necessarily to expand late night ops but to leave it mostly the way it is now. But definitely not to cut them. I think holiday flights landing till 2am is good, some people prefer that for more time away and it's very good for aircraft utilisation for FR and EI. Just like Gatwick, Manchester and Stansted, and maybe EDI.

Restricting movements on the new runway during night time hours makes sense. Reducing movements on the existing runway does not. Circa 100 movements on the southern runway in the mentioned time periods have operated for a number of years now. Leave that alone.

FFS.

I would bet its Saint Margaret's residents the Ward group, right down their way of thinking object to everything….

we live in a city too. some of us anyway. a city with an already substantial airport taking an immense number of passengers and absolutely dominating the local market share to monopolistic levels.

an airport that casts a huge wake of noise over a vast area with hundreds of thousands of working, tax paying, people below. and no theyre not 'near'. and no the airport doesnt predate them all, or their areas.

the value of the populations health, as well as the value of property affected by noise and carbon pollution is greater than that of more additional flights into the same 1 airport. any true capitalist with a bit of foresight would not approve of selling out the city for such a pittance as some extra flights and short term revenue.

industry execs however would. as would the dumb oblivious consumer, which is who the former are trying to appeal to in order to get their 30 pieces of silver. FCC seem to be the only thing standing between the citys future, and stupidity, impulsiveness and traiterous sociopath suits like Kenny or Willie or Mick. None of whom would tolerate so much as a lawnmower at midday. Whichever gated distant community they live in.

ah right, and does this work for everyone in the affected areas too. how many thousands should move? and whats the benefit.

its not that theres noise, its the potential frequency of that noise, which if decisions are left only to those with interests in growing numbers, will be constant.

So this is taken into account by planning. Its why you wont have concerts in Marley park year round. (which would generate many jobs and be a valuable source of income to the economy btw - dont be a nimby now)

Its why your local closes before midnight. And why construction cant continue at night/early morning.

The concept isnt that tricky but can be lost on the dumb consumerist masses. DAA is hoping to do just that.

Yes we are on an island.

The middle ground is this very reasonable scheme operated by Dublin Airport:

https://www.dublinairport.com/corporate/environmental-social-governance/noise/mitigation-schemes/residential-noise-insulation-schemes

Unfortunately the local militants don't like it very much.

The only thing I think that needs to be addressed is the flight path from 28R on take off, It looks like the straight take off path is largely free of any towns etc. but due to some issue with missed approach on 28L it can't be used. I hear the early USA flights 4.30am over my house and you get used to it compared to the noisy jets years ago… They need to stick a balance on the night flights currently with ABP to allow residents sleep and also the general business demand for flights during the nights be it quieter planes or flights cap to try and meet both groups demands…

not going to happen.

the officer class are all local so will not move.

The airport grows to meet demand. The airport grows as the economy and population grows. There’s no final figure. It’s that simple. There’s free movement of people and goods in the EU. There’s also open skies agreements. To keep Dublin at 32m for the rest of its days would be a breach in itself. They didn’t spend 300m on a new runway to leave it empty. Dublin airport development plan has listed 40m as a target. 50 will be the next. 60 after that and so on and so forth.

https://fingalppn.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/dublin-airport-lap-2020-1.pdf

Why anyone other than those on the payroll would want Dublin airport to further sprawl out to 40 million passengers is a mystery.

The idea of developing a city is to live well, business and profit is the means to get to the point of living well. Some people mix up the means with the end goal. And Kenny is there to lead you on like suckers.

Dublin airport is subject to infrastructural limitations, such as road capacity, and utilities development - power, water. Which are the responsibility of Fingal county. (Which owes a duty to the citizens of Fingal).

As is housing and the health of citizens in the fastest growing county in the country. So there is a limit and I dont think its 50 million. If the country is run right (50/50 odds) it wont be 40m either.

Those who love a bit of progress should take more interest in Waterford and Cork airports. Its a small island, and budget airlines have grown rapidly through targeting smaller regional airports (a la Beauvais). Also its boring to be a 1 city country, we're too Dublin centric in everything.

But Kenny hasnt paid off the Business Post to run that sort of thing so you wont focus there. Baaahh.🐑

What is your proposal for Waterford exactly? How much taxpayer money would you pump into it on an ongoing basis to subsidise airlines to fly there? Is that an efficient use of taxpayer money? Your example of Beauvais is misplaced. Beauvais serves mainly as a low cost access point for Paris, not to the region. Is your suggestion to make Waterford as Dublin South Airport?

You seem to be concerned that Fingal is unable to provide the services for a growing airport. So would you then agree that transit pax should not be included towards the limit for the cap?

Why do you want to discourage naturally occurring growth? Airlines want to fly to Dublin and they have the choice of flying to the other airports too. It would be like rejecting a proposal for a pub in the temple bar area and saying we need more pubs in rural Ireland instead. It's a nice fantasy.

33 million is clearly not enough when there’s demand out there for more. They are predicting 36 million passengers this year. As for the rest of your response… Eh, wtf!?🤔