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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭lmk123


    I lost respect for him after that podcast, he was talking to ordinary hard working lads and he just avoided every question giving bull **** answers and pretending to be a fool. Pod cast went on for nearly 2 hours and not 1 sentence that I’d consider noteworthy from him. Same as the rest of them, talk for Ireland while saying nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    People areonl y keeping bare minimum heifers before lads wud keep xtra incase they hit a bad run or tb now with nitratesvthere there taking up valuable cow places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭straight


    Also you weren't getting paid to sell surplus replacements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Yes when there were plentyof new entrants gd miney wasv got for incalf hfs early in backend that trade has disapeared now lads buy fresh calved but there very chosey so u will only get gd money for very correct hfs i recon bettr to run tight rplacement rate and if u run tight ilk on even once aday young milk cows over winter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,739 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    bs……I sold my 6 worst (which were still ok and of if I had to milk them I would of )fr heifer calves for 650 a piece 2 weeks ago…I had over 20 calls and if I had 50 I’d of sold them at that price …..incalf heifers and cows will command high prices this backend ….dairy stock just ain’t there ….i give out a bit about Tegasc but I must compliment them for this ….they advised just enough fr replacements and load on the beef straws ….happy days



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    i bet u sold one done deal theres always the odd half wit on there whch u got as for all the calls thats very nrmal odone dean go to the mart and fibd out what there worth very littelee see rubbish ebi sold every year 600 to 800 incalf .Id say ud be a sound lad to deal with in the yard but if u didbt get ur way ud turn nasty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭straight


    It's A different market now. They haven't been the easiest animal to offload over the years. I have 28 heifer calves left here. Don't know when will I sell the surplus ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,141 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Getting pricey now to bring in overseas labour, if your expected to house them your talking a 50k package yearly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭straight


    I sold a load of my March born angus calves. They made between 7 and 8 hundred euro. April angus made about 550 average. Market seems to be slipping now so I'm glad most are gone. Sold most of the Feb born friesian bulls for 400 ish the other day.

    My yearling fr bulls that were only worth a fiver last year made almost 1200 euro out of the shed. An angus yearling weighing only 260kg made 1000 euro. It seems to be hard to beat the angus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Not if you are set up like Munster Joinery ,They bring them in ,set them up in MJ accomadation ,do all the paperwork ,give them work contracts for hours 8-6 mon-fri They have buses to bring them to/from work . 6 months later rinse and repeat with another batch of migrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    You take the accomodation cost out of that 39k minimum salary. It's not on top



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Peter Hynes giving his calves 4kgs nuts daily along with straw.. after reading his article i happened to make a phone call to our feed rep ordering a few dairy nuts.. he is also dairy farming with his father.. and he said he is giving his calves 5kgs 18% nuts daily… are fellas gone a bit mad?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,739 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    not a bit …..Aidan brenan would have a **** attack reading this after his article in journal nearly having a seizure when how a fella who thought he was feed his cows 1.6 kg meal daily was actually feeding 2.2 kg 🙄🙄🙄🙄….some horseshoe….on calves I’ve still mine in …on rubber slats ….ad lib hay …red clover silage and bit maize plus about 3.5 kg 18% nut …..calves thrive better and far easier manage ….no summer scour ….worms or breaking thru fences



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,141 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Totally depends on breeding if their high ebi, small type/low maintaine it's a waste of time, if their high type holstiens they grow like weeds and need the above diet..

    3 bags of powder and circa 1 ton of feed go into the heifer calves here in their first year

    4 month old Solomon heifer of a stockbull easily 140kgs plus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭straight


    Some Waste of money. Mine are still in on 1kg nuts and ad lib silage. No point in fattening calves. You just want to grow them. My feed rep feeds an awful lot of nuts too 🤣. Great job he thinks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Just read in the Examiner that the Laurelmore heifer calf sale last week averaged 1200 Euros each. The bottom of the herd sired by stock bulls. Lads are gone simple.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,404 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    It's all the same what you feed your calves as long as you make up your own mind, and don't assume Peter Hynes or Aidan Brennan or your feed rep know what's best for them.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,739 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    it is …and as calves is most efficient time to feed them and grow a frame ….that’s hey ..you want frame Not chubby heifer calves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭straight


    There's a YouTuber with a calf to beef setup. She's drawing 4kg of nuts to her Angus calves. I can just see the profit draining from her system every day. Mine only got 1Kg and the made up to almost 800 euro in the mart. 700 average for bulls and heifers I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    700€ wouldn’t be hectic for the prices being got this year



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,428 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Theoretical question.

    If one made red clover silage into a nut with added minerals. Could one eliminate cereal meal altogether for feeding to both calves and cows?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭straight


    Ya. Nothing special. Calves only got 1kg nuts and were in a slatted unit so weee dirty. I don't agree with fattening calves but there are plenty people that will overpay for such calves in the mart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    You sound like you're afraid to let them out! You just have to manage them for SSS with access to good hay and a good shock and they won't go near it. Mine are on 1.5kgs and thriving. They are herbivores, they need to get eating grass. Watching calves grazing vigorously is a joy to behold. Also, you are building up immunity to worms in their first year outside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,490 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    you need to strip graze calves I think and give them fresh grass every 2-3 days. If they eat the whole plant and not just the leaf they are far better off.
    A lot of summer scour is under developed rumens imo. Farmers are doing a super job rearing calves and then completely changing the diet too quick. High milk powder, High meal and straw/hay onto low meal and left in the same paddock for couple of weeks where the grass is gone stale



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,739 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    not a bit ..just far easier manage indoors and personally think they do better ….theyll be fine inside till August then they’ll go out with no setbacks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,258 ✭✭✭cosatron


    i find if you let calves out into standing hay, is the best job, little or no fert and let them pick what they want. on about 1kg a day. thriving well and rock solid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,739 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Agree there ….calves rumen not able to fully handle grass till 6 months old …personally cringe at lads leaving calves out in march and thinking it’s great job



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    Ah fair enough I thought they were not going out at all in their first year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Yeast and rumen buffers for summer scour. Liffey Mills do a calf grazer ration with them in it to beat the scour.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,328 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    any issues with parasites in the following years? mainly lung worm I would have thought immunity would be low, we let the early ones out usually early may and offer straw and the meal has a rumen buffer, anyway whatever works for you and suits your system, no 2 farms are the same



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