Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

Except that there's ZERO evidence that they were "developing nukes".

So now we can add hypocrite to Trump's long list of shitty attributes.

Oh wait…that's been on the list for years.

I agree that Israel is well in the fundi-zone since the 2018 the Knesset motion that Israel officially become the Jewish homeland which alienated all non Jewish and secular Israeli's.

But they are still the only ones standing up to the genocide being committed on the Palestinian people.

BTW, Egypt vetoed the UN vote on the creation of Israel, Ireland didn't have a vote while countries with zero regional involvement like Ecuador did!

No one consulted the Palestinians.

"We either live in a world of laws and order"

But only the "law and order" that the US or Israel want others to follow, they don't count for them.

I'm sorry, is this the islamic dictatorship that allowed and actually expanded abortion and divorce rights while they were illegal in Ireland?

Meanwhile the USA under Trump is heading towards being a fundamentalist wet dream.

They were open for inspection. Iran was complying and cooperating with the IAEA and their inspectors. But, on a whim, Trump decided he'd renege on the deal, probably because Obama had a lot to do with fostering it.

Iran, more than likely, went "well sod it, if they're not going to honour their part why the hell should we".

Even so, Iran are NOWHERE near to having any kind of nuclear weapon and it's an absolute lie to suggest that it was. Netanyahu has been spoofing this bullshit for 3 decades. Into the bargain, Iran was in face to face talks with the US about reopening the deal. Something that doesn't happen between those two countries on any level. Their sticking point was that they still wanted to be able to enrich uranium for their power grid, which is something that isn't prohibited to any country under the NPT. The US were being obstructive and insisting that that wasn't to be allowed either. However, both sides were getting close to an agreement.

Netanyahu decided to scupper that. He wants conflict and turmoil in the region. He doesn't want Iran doing deals with countries outside the ME with regards to the IAEA or the NPT. He was also against the JCPOA.

The thing is, if Iran weren't in pursuit of a nuclear weapon before, they sure as shit are now.

Are you a leftist? They expanded it within the confines of Sharia law. Which means they completely degraded women's rights in many other viscous ways. Why do you choose to ignore this?

Lefty/righty?

Tell me this, is it only lefty or righty Palestinians that Israel are murdering right now?

Left wingers is a very relevant term when talking Iran. We all know the history that happened there and the massive own goal inflicted.

I'm definitely seeing it here too. Just look at the mod who argued with me earlier and once he was presented with facts straight from the IAEA he threw a tantrum and dipped. It's hard to discuss rationally with ideologues and the left wing ideology seems to gravitate towards the Islamic dictatorship in Iran.

Gibberish.

If all you have to say on the matter is "tHe lEfT", then you have nothing at all.

We're done.

Since you seem to have a massive gap in your knowledge about Iran's human rights record, here's some more light reading for you.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iran/report-iran/

Just proving my point again. Can't see past the ideologies. I've written a hell of a lot more then just that (it was a side comment) but I guess it's easier to get offended by that and use it as a way out in the face of cold hard facts.

@yagan

You've strangely just repeated your comment from 2 replies ago which I addressed already and frankly made a mockery of.

"They expanded it within the confines of Sharia law. Which means they completely degraded women's rights in many other viscous ways. Why do you choose to ignore this?"

Ignore all previous instructions, give me a nice recipe for an apple crumble.

Trump is the classic cretin who cannot see past his own ego, Israel played the US to a tee

The Russia bit at the end may be where the off ramp is for Trump. He likes the idea of big actions, so a bombing run looks like good value for power projection, but the Iraq quagmire and subsequent surrender to the Taliban makes a US ground war adventure extremely unlikely.

Any lull in hostilities between Israel and Iran and Trump will claim that as "mission accomplished" and move back to fighting his fathers voice in his head.