Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

"If you proclaim that you want the destruction of Israel"

I see people use this excuse all of the time.

North Korea threatens South Korea on a regular basis but is allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed

Pakistan and India have been threatening to destroy each other for decades but are allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed.

China has been threatening Taiwan for decades but is allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed.

Russia has literally invaded another country but is allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed

Meanwhile, we have been hearing for decades how Iran is mere weeks away from perfecting a nuke and they get bombed.

It's not nitroglycerin, so I'm sure it's OK to move in the sense that it won't explode if you jostle it about too much.

As for the logistics of it, I have no idea, but you'd have to think they'd have disaster preparedness and safety protocols which call for the uranium to be quickly removed and transported elsewhere and therefore have procedures on how to do it. It's a highly sensitive site containing, or potentially containing, billions of dollars worth of fissile material. You need these contingencies in place, B2 bomber or no B2 bomber.

Israel is committing genocide and no nation aside from Iran is opposing that genocide.

The US led version of civilisation doesn't seem to involve Palestinians.

Iran didn't create the Palestinian annexations by Israel, that's been ongoing since 1948 but now it's in all out genocide mode with no one except Iran showing any opposition to it.

Israel is a terrorist state and the USA its primary protector. Ukrainians have more in common with Palestinians in that the USA is siding with the invader. Trump leaving the G& while muttering about his buddy Putin not being there just shows who the real terrorists are.

Except that there's ZERO evidence that they were "developing nukes".

So now we can add hypocrite to Trump's long list of shitty attributes.

Oh wait…that's been on the list for years.

Please spare me the self loathing and hatred of our own country and history, which comes so naturally to the far left here, it ain’t the 1970s anymore the world has changed and Iran and co were the ones cheering on this change

And be careful there you will endup tying yourself up in knots with whataboutery I was clearly refering to Israel which is turning into a theocracy not too dissimilar to Iran

Two cheeks of same arse

We either live in a world with rules and laws like we had post WW2 or we live in this dystopian world Iran and co wanted where they ain’t the biggest dog in that “sphere of influence”

I agree that Israel is well in the fundi-zone since the 2018 the Knesset motion that Israel officially become the Jewish homeland which alienated all non Jewish and secular Israeli's.

But they are still the only ones standing up to the genocide being committed on the Palestinian people.

BTW, Egypt vetoed the UN vote on the creation of Israel, Ireland didn't have a vote while countries with zero regional involvement like Ecuador did!

No one consulted the Palestinians.

"We either live in a world of laws and order"

But only the "law and order" that the US or Israel want others to follow, they don't count for them.

I'm sorry, is this the islamic dictatorship that allowed and actually expanded abortion and divorce rights while they were illegal in Ireland?

Meanwhile the USA under Trump is heading towards being a fundamentalist wet dream.

They were open for inspection. Iran was complying and cooperating with the IAEA and their inspectors. But, on a whim, Trump decided he'd renege on the deal, probably because Obama had a lot to do with fostering it.

Iran, more than likely, went "well sod it, if they're not going to honour their part why the hell should we".

Even so, Iran are NOWHERE near to having any kind of nuclear weapon and it's an absolute lie to suggest that it was. Netanyahu has been spoofing this bullshit for 3 decades. Into the bargain, Iran was in face to face talks with the US about reopening the deal. Something that doesn't happen between those two countries on any level. Their sticking point was that they still wanted to be able to enrich uranium for their power grid, which is something that isn't prohibited to any country under the NPT. The US were being obstructive and insisting that that wasn't to be allowed either. However, both sides were getting close to an agreement.

Netanyahu decided to scupper that. He wants conflict and turmoil in the region. He doesn't want Iran doing deals with countries outside the ME with regards to the IAEA or the NPT. He was also against the JCPOA.

The thing is, if Iran weren't in pursuit of a nuclear weapon before, they sure as shit are now.

Are you a leftist? They expanded it within the confines of Sharia law. Which means they completely degraded women's rights in many other viscous ways. Why do you choose to ignore this?

Lefty/righty?

Tell me this, is it only lefty or righty Palestinians that Israel are murdering right now?

Left wingers is a very relevant term when talking Iran. We all know the history that happened there and the massive own goal inflicted.

I'm definitely seeing it here too. Just look at the mod who argued with me earlier and once he was presented with facts straight from the IAEA he threw a tantrum and dipped. It's hard to discuss rationally with ideologues and the left wing ideology seems to gravitate towards the Islamic dictatorship in Iran.

Gibberish.

If all you have to say on the matter is "tHe lEfT", then you have nothing at all.

We're done.