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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭paulbok


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    ….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    So much for lecturing Zelensky on gambling with WW3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    What Russia, Israel and now the USA under Trump have in common is the desire to annex lands against the will and consent of those living there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Is he trying to raise oil prices,,I read a couple of weeks that the us oil producers were struggling at the low price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,752 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    ...that would compensate Russia for the treatment of a sortof ally

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭Field east


    C) it’s Biden’s war. The plan was hatched with Israel during Biden’s presidency. Trump had no choice but to carry it out!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    Perhaps. The USAs biggest competitor in that trade is actually Saudi Arabia and other gulf states who repeatedly increased production to undercut competition.

    Iran and China have started trading via currency swaps which cuts the USD out, but so have Saudi Arabia and most of the gulf states.

    Iran is actually striking into Israel which is undermining their whole Iron Dome myth, they even hit a Mossad base. If anything the B1 bombing run was confirmation that Iran has Israel spooked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭Field east


    A simple. question. If your sovereign country was being attacked by the US and you were given the choice of being attacked by either /or the following options which would you choose:-

    (1). The use of chemicals such as naphalm, agent orange, nerve gas to ‘put manners on you’

    OR

    (2) bomb all our nuclear facilities - including nuclear bomb making capacity- into ‘ smithereens’

    My hoice would always be (B) no point in picking (A) and not being around to enjoy the ‘fruits’ of (B)

    The US could probably give you more options but the above two have been used by It so they are ‘proven’ options



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    No its not.

    With this act Trump has crossed the line.

    He has become a complete caricature of himself.

    Donal Trump no longer exists, the Mr Trump persona has completely taken over now.

    He is a raving lunatic, a bull in a China shop.

    He has become more and more unhinged, bitter, emboldened and dangerous.

    All those court cases, the assasination attempts, the toll of the campaign, he isnt the same man he was in his first term and he has surrounded himself with the wrong people who wont curb his excesses.

    Doing Israels dirty work for them, its revolting.

    Iran has as many nuclear weapons as Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, none.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    Last night US intervention is probably because Israel is low on weapons. From the Washington Post four days ago.

    Without resupplies from the United States or greater involvement by U.S. forces, some assessments project Israel can maintain its missile defense for 10 or 12 more days if Iran maintains a steady tempo of attacks, said an individual briefed on U.S. and Israeli intelligence assessments, adding that as early as later this week, Israel’s systems may only be able to intercept a smaller proportion of missiles because of a need to ration defensive munitions. “They will need to select what they want to intercept,” said the individual, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. “The system is already overwhelmed.”

    Tal Inbar, an Israeli missile expert affiliated with the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance in Virginia, noted that in 2014, Israel sought a ceasefire with Hamas days before it ran out of air defense interceptors. The level of interceptor stocks is a highly sensitive subject in Israel, but “it could be a factor in a ceasefire” this time as well, Inbar said.

    https://archive.ph/kVxbh#selection-585.0-633.358



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    This would never have happened if trump were President, believe me, everybody's saying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,168 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "All those court cases, the assasination attempts, the toll of the campaign"

    Ahahaha - in other words...

    It's not his fault folks! It's the Democrats!

    Poor Trump. Poor pure perfect Trump, worn down by the machine, on his mission, his altruistic attempts to better the lives of the average American.

    Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This is what he's always been. You can't acknowledge that so you both sides it once again.

    If a tiny amount of consequences did this to him, he should have stayed in his gaudy apartment and left the rest of us alone.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yawn. They were behind October 7th and one of their stated goals is the destruction of Israel while enriching uranium to needlessly high levels unless you wanted a bomb. They were backing Assad, Hezbollah, HAMAS and the houthis. They might as well be at war. Oh and bonus points for them giving Russia a dig out in the war in Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They were until the deal reigned them in. They had enough enriched Uranium for 8-10 bombs which they surrendered as part of the deal. By terminating the deal, the orange moron removed this safeguard.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    You mean regime change in Iran? Sure we've already had the Islamists install regime change that's basically led to a totalitarian government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,978 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Bombing Iran now is solely a result of the dud parade and the desperate polls. No harm to destroy the Iranian government but that doesn't make Trump right.

    Now would be a good time to impeach him - he was well out of order bombing Iran in secret - but the alternative is so marginally better, if at all, that its hard to know whether its worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,591 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    They should never have stopped the inspectors coming. Nothing justifies this evil islamic dictatorship enriching uranium to such high levels in bunkers 80M below the surface. Imagine Ireland tried this while stating our goal was to wipe Britain off the map. We'd be like turkey's voting for Christmas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,261 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭Field east


    is there any information on what exactly did theUS bomb, ;were bunker buster bombs used , and if so, how many were used; was the whole mountain levelled or what?

    We were lead to believe that there would be at least two bunker bombs needed because the nuclear enrichment facilities are located deep down into the mountain, that all structures around the bomb site, for miles would be shaken to pieces , etc

    Is there any possibility that the Iranians would have ‘discretely moved the ‘gold’ - enriched uranium - to a ‘safe house’ before the bombing.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,902 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    it has significantly restricted access for inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Specifically, Iran has suspended the implementation of the Additional Protocol, which provides the IAEA with enhanced monitoring tools, though a temporary understanding allows inspectors to continue their work to a degree.

    You shouldn't need me to educate you on this matter. Why would you enrich uranium to such stupidly high levels and then restrict access to the inspectors?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So no sources, just more sycophantic support for Trump and Netanyahu's warmongering. The deal stopped them doing it but Trump decided that allowing them to do so was better for some reason.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Well know more shortly with the Pentagon press conference starting.

    But so far they have said at least 6 bombs where used. Iran have claimed they removed all the Uranian days prior to the bombing (satellite images shows dozens of trucks at the mountain)

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    That's a satellite image from after the bombing. Pretty hard to tell the damage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,331 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,261 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Trump could have threatened to withhold weapons to Israel, and continued with the scheduled talks with Iran. And tried to get the talks about the two-state solution back on track. But TACO.

    The UN talks co-hosted by France and Saudi Arabia aimed at forging a roadmap towards a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians has been postponed after Israel launched a military attack on Iran the day before they were due to start.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/un-conference-on-israel-palestinian-issue-postponed-after-attack-on-iran-sources-say/ar-AA1GFe9B



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,980 ✭✭✭yagan


    The whole nuclear angle is a thirty year Israeli lie.

    Israel's primary target always was and always will be Iran's conventional missile stock.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Ah will ya stop, look it right here

    ”It says Iran's "many failures" to provide the IAEA with full answers about its undeclared nuclear material and activities constitutes non-compliance. It also expresses concern about Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium, which can be used to make reactor fuel but also nuclear weapons.

    Iran condemned the resolution as "political" and said it would open a new enrichment facility.

    It follows a report from the IAEA last week which criticised Iran's "general lack of co-operation" and said it had enough uranium enriched to 60% purity, near weapons grade, to potentially make nine nuclear bombs.”



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