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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,355 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Netanyahu played trump, trump had no option but to bomb those nuclear sites after Israel began their campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,243 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The next step is

    A) the mental gymnastics to justify or

    B) lip service criticism together with claim others have done worse

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,905 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    No, I really don't care either way, but blaming Trump on the Democrats is a complete cop-out. The Democrats have been feeble, agreed, but the main problem is that too many Americans are stupid, ill-educated and brainwashed. And that is down to a lifetime of flag-worship, poor education, insularity, consumerism, and personal insecurity created by the 'might, and wealth, is right' system. Their total conviction that they have rights and freedom has perversely led to a lack of, and distain for, personal rights and freedoms. They pretty much believe anything they are told by snake-oil salesmen, whether of a political or religious flavour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,243 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Btw - throwback to 3 days ago when Carlson made Cruz slip up and say "we" when talking about actions against Iran.

    We've gone in 3 days from saying we are merely backing them up to taking the action and credit.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭yagan


    There wasn't much resistance in the USA to begin with. Netenyahu got 28 standing ovations while addressing a joint sitting of the Senate and Congress.

    They both have a promised land mindset that absents them from any feelings of wrongdoing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,249 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So the stuff about two weeks was a load of bollocks then ? I must say I’m shocked by that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,649 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Such wars usually arise closer to election time when polls matter more- but I can’t help but think this will give Trump a major boost in poll ratings - I also can’t see Democrats winning the next presidential election - if you create a war footing situation then “might is right” tends to be the election theme.

    It remains to be seen how Russia responds in all of this and just how much more escalation occurs- Iran needs Russian support but does this become some sort of world war by proxy?

    China may well take advantage by stirring things elsewhere - Taiwan for example - world is getting more fcked by the day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,156 ✭✭✭paulbok


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭StoutPost


    So much for lecturing Zelensky on gambling with WW3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭yagan


    What Russia, Israel and now the USA under Trump have in common is the desire to annex lands against the will and consent of those living there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Is he trying to raise oil prices,,I read a couple of weeks that the us oil producers were struggling at the low price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,309 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    ...that would compensate Russia for the treatment of a sortof ally

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Field east


    C) it’s Biden’s war. The plan was hatched with Israel during Biden’s presidency. Trump had no choice but to carry it out!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭yagan


    Perhaps. The USAs biggest competitor in that trade is actually Saudi Arabia and other gulf states who repeatedly increased production to undercut competition.

    Iran and China have started trading via currency swaps which cuts the USD out, but so have Saudi Arabia and most of the gulf states.

    Iran is actually striking into Israel which is undermining their whole Iron Dome myth, they even hit a Mossad base. If anything the B1 bombing run was confirmation that Iran has Israel spooked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Field east


    A simple. question. If your sovereign country was being attacked by the US and you were given the choice of being attacked by either /or the following options which would you choose:-

    (1). The use of chemicals such as naphalm, agent orange, nerve gas to ‘put manners on you’

    OR

    (2) bomb all our nuclear facilities - including nuclear bomb making capacity- into ‘ smithereens’

    My hoice would always be (B) no point in picking (A) and not being around to enjoy the ‘fruits’ of (B)

    The US could probably give you more options but the above two have been used by It so they are ‘proven’ options



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,882 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    No its not.

    With this act Trump has crossed the line.

    He has become a complete caricature of himself.

    Donal Trump no longer exists, the Mr Trump persona has completely taken over now.

    He is a raving lunatic, a bull in a China shop.

    He has become more and more unhinged, bitter, emboldened and dangerous.

    All those court cases, the assasination attempts, the toll of the campaign, he isnt the same man he was in his first term and he has surrounded himself with the wrong people who wont curb his excesses.

    Doing Israels dirty work for them, its revolting.

    Iran has as many nuclear weapons as Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, none.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭yagan


    Last night US intervention is probably because Israel is low on weapons. From the Washington Post four days ago.

    Without resupplies from the United States or greater involvement by U.S. forces, some assessments project Israel can maintain its missile defense for 10 or 12 more days if Iran maintains a steady tempo of attacks, said an individual briefed on U.S. and Israeli intelligence assessments, adding that as early as later this week, Israel’s systems may only be able to intercept a smaller proportion of missiles because of a need to ration defensive munitions. “They will need to select what they want to intercept,” said the individual, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. “The system is already overwhelmed.”

    Tal Inbar, an Israeli missile expert affiliated with the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance in Virginia, noted that in 2014, Israel sought a ceasefire with Hamas days before it ran out of air defense interceptors. The level of interceptor stocks is a highly sensitive subject in Israel, but “it could be a factor in a ceasefire” this time as well, Inbar said.

    https://archive.ph/kVxbh#selection-585.0-633.358



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭StoutPost


    This would never have happened if trump were President, believe me, everybody's saying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,243 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "All those court cases, the assasination attempts, the toll of the campaign"

    Ahahaha - in other words...

    It's not his fault folks! It's the Democrats!

    Poor Trump. Poor pure perfect Trump, worn down by the machine, on his mission, his altruistic attempts to better the lives of the average American.

    Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,345 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This is what he's always been. You can't acknowledge that so you both sides it once again.

    If a tiny amount of consequences did this to him, he should have stayed in his gaudy apartment and left the rest of us alone.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Yawn. They were behind October 7th and one of their stated goals is the destruction of Israel while enriching uranium to needlessly high levels unless you wanted a bomb. They were backing Assad, Hezbollah, HAMAS and the houthis. They might as well be at war. Oh and bonus points for them giving Russia a dig out in the war in Ukraine.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,345 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They were until the deal reigned them in. They had enough enriched Uranium for 8-10 bombs which they surrendered as part of the deal. By terminating the deal, the orange moron removed this safeguard.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    You mean regime change in Iran? Sure we've already had the Islamists install regime change that's basically led to a totalitarian government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,905 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Bombing Iran now is solely a result of the dud parade and the desperate polls. No harm to destroy the Iranian government but that doesn't make Trump right.

    Now would be a good time to impeach him - he was well out of order bombing Iran in secret - but the alternative is so marginally better, if at all, that its hard to know whether its worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,678 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    They should never have stopped the inspectors coming. Nothing justifies this evil islamic dictatorship enriching uranium to such high levels in bunkers 80M below the surface. Imagine Ireland tried this while stating our goal was to wipe Britain off the map. We'd be like turkey's voting for Christmas.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,345 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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