Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

I`m no fan of either Isreal or Iran at present, and not broken hearted to see Trump caught between a rock and a hard place. I very much doubt Netanyahu`s claim of Iran being weeks away from developing nuclear weapons. I have been hearing that for the past 20 years, but the world would be safer without them having the capability to develope them further. But then with Netanyahu, the world would be safer if he didn`t have them either.

I would doubt much of a regime change without boots being put on the ground in Iran. if there was regime change due to this bombing it would most likely be a military one, and when it comes to military regimes taking over it is usually the most vicious faction that comes out on top, so perhaps a case of both Isreal and the U.S. being careful what the wish for.

its going to be 2 weeks,it will be beautiful,did i tell you how bigglie it will be in 2 weeks?i was just on a phone call with one of my besties bibi,you know bibi dont you?great guy,shame about the combover though,he should use my hair dresser,hes a great guy,clearing gaza for me and bombing iran for me too,build some hotels and a resort there too…talked with my other bestie vlad,you know vlad,great guy,he wrestles bears,did you know that?great guy…he uses alot of iranian stuff you know,he tests it in Ukraine,hes a great tester for iran…so it will be in the next couple of weeks,did i say that?yeah i think i did,2 weeks,it will be all done,be awesome…did you see ive an onion on my belt?yeah i wear it because i can, in 2 weeks…its time for a golf weekend,i play golf,did you know that?im great,i should play in the masters,win it too!,have to get my assistant to change my nappy first,get some sudocream on there to,stings a bit…youll see,in 2 weeks,be bigglie!!

Isreal had no problems from Iran prior to this regime because Iran was ran by a U.S. proxy, the Shah. The present regime is a continuation of a populist religious revolution where there was no love for the U.S. because of their proping up the Shah, or for any of their allies either. Decades of sanctions haven`t improved that situation. Neither will, imo, this idea by both Trump and Netanyahu of "taking out" Khamenei. He may be their head of state, but he is also their spiritual leader.

I don`t see that just wiping out Iran`s nuclear capabilities will result in regime change, but even if it did the most likely new regime would be a military one, and the threats to Isreal have not been nuclear. They have been through proxy factions funded and armed by Iran`s military. If that is the threat that Netanyahu is hoping to eliminate he or Trump are not going to achieve that by bombing. It would require boots on the ground, and while a lot of countries around Isreal may not much like Isreal, they would like them a lot less with Isreali troops in Iran.

Trump is not going to send troops into Iran. He would be out of the White House quicker than he could wipe his ass, and unlike Iraq, there would be no coalition of the willing either to back Isreal. Netanyahu started this war thinking he could sucker in Trump, but that is not going to happen, so how he gets himself out of it is going to be a problem for him. If Trump sends those bunker busting bombs via U.S. planes, we know Trump well enough to know he will claim them an outstanding success, even if the do not do what they are supposed to. By doing that it will leave Netanyahu twisting in the wind with no excuses to continue bombing.

No it's not, because Trump had and will have the last say on the matter, which is what he wanted

Q: Your intelligence community says they have no evidence that Iran is building a nuke

TRUMP: Then my intelligence community is wrong. Who said that?

Q: You director of national intelligence Tulsi Gabbard

TRUMP: She's wrong

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I don't disagree with your first point, but my point was that the current regimes motivation is entirely driven by hardcore religious idealogy.

A new military regime, even if its another form of religious governance, is unlikely to pursue the same action, because inherently Iranian people are not troubled by the existance of Israel.

I would say the Egyptian population hates Israel in a way that the normal Iranian population never will, but Egypt is not driven purely by religious fundamentalism and has kept peace with Israel for 40+ years.

Same for Lebanon - another country whose population generally does not like Israel for good reason, but also has no interest in war with Israel, and that fact, combined with Israels actions against it, is why Hezbollah is sitting silent and watching as Israel attacks Iran.

Israel is surrounded by countries that do not like it. Iran, not even a neighboring country, is the only one left that believes Israel has to be destroyed and acts accordingly.

Most countries made peace with Israel because it was the sensible thing to do, and the only logical option after all the costly failed wars in the past.

Iran never had to suffer that before because of the strategy of proxy and missile deterrence, but that's all collapsed.

Even if there's no regime change, I would find it highly unlikely that even the current regime would continue to pursue naked aggression towards Israel in the years ahead after seeing decades of strategic planning to shield Iran from any blowback collapse in two years.

I don`t see how bombing Iran is going to make the Iranian population look more kindly on Isreal, or the U.S. if Trump decides to join in, and I cannot see there being any change of regime there other than perhaps a military regime without a full scale invasion which is not going to happen.

Isteal`s problems from Iran have been the funding and supply of hardcore factions by Iran. Netanyahu looks as if he seized upon another dodgy document similar to the U.S. in the war with Iraq and ran with it hoping the U.S. would back him. But barring the odd bunker buster bomb, that is not going to happen.

So where does he go from here ? If it remains the same regime in Iran or a military regime, it`s not going to solve Isreal`s problems with being attacked by those hardcore elements. If Netanyahu resorts to indiscriminate bombing as he has threated too, regardless of which regime ends up running the country, it is not going to encourage them to stop funding and supplying those hard core anti Isreal groups due to some ground swell of the Iranian public telling them not too.

Sent June 21?

Now let me think who does have a nobel peace prize…. is someone suffering possibly from ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome)…….

Shocking..,

So that’s Gabbard under the bus, and Hegseth frozen out.

This was all predicted, he would never listen or keep those around him for longer than he needed.