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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The bunker buster the US is contemplating using have never been used in combat. I'm not sure what was dropped on caves in the hunt for Bin Laden.

    Experts as suggesting more than one bomb will be required. I suppose it's hard to know exactly without knowing the geological makeup of the mountain in question.

    The question is, if the US bomb the mountain only and Iran doesn't retaliate, will the US just say job done and leave Israel to keep going solo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,243 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,907 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    We don't need to wait two weeks to see how often he says it.

    Most important one is at the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,235 ✭✭✭✭briany




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    For someone who bad mouths Europe every chance he gets, he is now looking for Europe to get him out of a hole with a brokered deal. Even if there is a brokered deal I doubt Netanyahu will stop bombing Iran.

    If Trump does eventually decide to bomb I cannot see that being anything other than those bunker bombs, and with him being what he is he will declare it a beautiful success even if it`s not. So how could he then justify Netanyahu continuing to bomb as Netanyahu has shown he doesn`t really give a toss for what Trump may or may not want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


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    Can't help but think of this,as Drumpf continuously kicks the can two weeks down the road!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,874 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,256 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I presume Trump is immune to libel as President when referring to Newsom as 'newscum'?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,328 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    That's not libellous though. It's clearly an opinion.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,907 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Agreed. Although insults can be considered libellous if they inflict damage on a person's reputation, I doubt 'Newscum' would ever qualify under that. Juvenile and petty, but not libellous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭randd1


    As would the response President Frump. It'd be some craic if Newsome started using it, especially given how vain Trump is.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,328 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    "Newscum" honestly reveals more about the convicted felon than it does anyone else.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    I heard it could lead to the water of the Middle East being poisoned. There are lot of potential consequences. But Iran’s case for having a nuclear weapon has just been made by Israel’s attack and if that regime want to survive they need the bomb. Quite the conundrum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,235 ✭✭✭✭briany


    It would be cathartic, maybe, but would come at a most terrible cost of further validating/normalising that language. There's a hope - maybe a forlorn one - that some kind of civility could come back into American politics at some point and that hope gets further away as otherwise sensible politicians start slinging the mud back.

    Plus there are ways to wind Trump up that don't involve petty name-calling. When Kamala Harris called Trump old and weird, both of those things were objectively true with his strange hair and his golden apartment and his obsession with beauty pageants and his orange face. He is a massive, massive weirdo. Strange that the Democrats haven't kept up with that chat since losing the election. It's as true now as it was then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    it also reveals a lot that so many Americans love all that adolescent name calling. Do they hate politicians so much that any who breaks the norms will get their vote ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Let's not forget all the European countries with US airbases constantly flying tankers down to the med. Let's hope he has thanked them (no pun intended)

    I just hope Iran don't go attacking US assets around the area if the US bombs just the mountain. Shame it can't be loaded into the back on an Israeli C130 so the US doesn't have to intervene.

    I totally agree that Netanyahu will keep the war going. It's his best chance to complete destroy the regime and all offensive capabilities of Iran.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,328 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It does but bear in mind that American culture has a very, very strong anti-intellectual current within it, manifested in crude terms such as "poindexter" and "brainiac". Trump uses very simplistic language and sentences to convey very simplistic (not to mention wrong) ideas. The man is in touch with what his base thinks and continues to reap the appropriate rewards.

    People like things to be easy and straightforward but we live in a complicated multilateral world where action by one country can have ripples across the world.

    The rules of engagement strongly favour Trump since it takes no effort at all for him to say that free trade is an anti-American scam while anyone who knows the truth has to go into detail to explain why.

    I don't think it's a hatred of politicians in and of itself. I think it's something more atavistic. They want simplicity and to feel special and Trump gives them this. It's why they don't care whenever he launches a meme coin, NFTs or his new phone plan thing. It's childlike and primitive but also very powerful.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Sergio Gor, Director of the White House (chief personnel officer)

    Sergio Gor (officially born November 30, 1986) is an Maltese businessman and Russian operative in the United States.[1] He led Right for America, a super PAC supporting president Donald Trump, during the 2024 United States presidential election.[2] During the election, he published Our Journey Together, Letters to Trump (2023),[3] and Save America (2024)[4] through Winning Team Publishing,[5] a publishing house he operates with Trump's eldest son Donald Trump, Jr.[6] He served as a delegate at the 2024 Republican National Convention.[7]

    Malta denies that Sergio Gor was born in Malta, but confirmed that the same person had lived in Malta under the name of Sergey Goryachev. In reality, Sergey Goryachev (not the Russian general of the same name) was born in 1980 in Saratov. His sleeper agent parents emigrated to Malta where he spent most of his childhood before the family was transferred to the USA. Sergey proved to be a popular guy in college who got involved in the Republican party early. He helped Trump presidential election efforts and brought in $72 million for the campaign.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,783 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Tell everyone you need two weeks to think, and hopefully the problem will resolve itself or someone presents a way to avoid pissing off half your supporters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I've been digging into just what political mechanism CFTrump can use to launch war with Iran. As I recall, eventually under Biden, the Authorization for Use of Military Force that was used in Iraq was finally put to rest, due to the efforts of a Congresswoman from California who continued to attempt to legislate against it decades after it had been granted but never repealed.

    Sure enough, Congresswoman Lee did succeed it getting it repealed in the House in 2021, but it died in the Senate due to Schumer not bringing the revised version to a vote (and they had the votes, too.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeal_of_the_2002_AUMF

    However, it does look like, subsequently it was passed by the Senate in 2024, however, Biden did not sign the bill and in fact used it as cover for bombing Iraq in 2024. So, that particular AUMF is still around.

    Now, getting on to CFTrump, if in fact he 'chooses' to attack Iran directly, he will (in theory) need Congress to declare war, or do another AUMF. Such is detailed at great length here: https://www.justsecurity.org/64645/war-powers-trump-iran-strikes/

    That article was recently revised - CFTrump was rattling swords when Pompeo was SecState about attacking Iran, but never followed up.

    I think if indeed CFTrump goes forward to attack Iran (he won't, it'll be another Taco event and RuZZia doesn't want their ally hurt), he'll need an AUMF. With a compliant Congress, he'll get one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    Putin has said that the Russian scientists working on Irans Nuclear program are not for leaving-

    It's OK to bomb Iranians it seems- but bombing Russian scientists would be a Trump No-



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    They were CBP. Both are involved with people and stuff crossing the border to one extent or another, and both work for DHS. The distinction may be lost on some folks.

    They were apparently conducting operations nearby and wanted to use the parking lot as a staging area. They ended up using the street just outside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Can the president not go to war for 90 days without congressional approval?

    Start bombing Iran, 2 days later notify Congress that your bombing Iran and spend another 88 days with a bombing campaign and stop before you breach the Constitution?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,243 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    No, he needs a declaration from Congress of some form (AUMF or outright declaration.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I can't remember anything of the sort happening in Syria, Libya or Yemen. Was there declaration of war declared on those 3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In the case of Syria, Obama had the authorization but chose not to use it. Libya was requested by the UN.

    Yemen is different. Here the POTUS (Biden) had to provide, within 48 hours, a statement to Congress as to why he did this. The military can be used for 30 or 60 days depending on the type of intervention, as it is subject to the War Powers Act. If Congress has not declared war by then, the hostilities must cease. None of these ended in declaration of war, but based on my reading I think Biden violated the War Powers Act and kept the attack going through 2024 - it should've stopped by April or so.

    Trump re-instituted attacks on the Yemenis in March 2025 which ended fairly quickly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    With Syria, Obama and Trump did not have authorization to send troops in. It was strictly supposed to be assistance and supplies to friendly forces within Syria. It actually prohibited troops on the ground.

    But with Yemen, it's the exact same thing Trump can do with Iran. I highly doubt Trump has plans for US boots on the ground, but he has a 90 day window for a bombing campaign, which if the goal is blowing up a mountain, should be plenty of time. Maybe a few other targets that Israel may have issues getting to (based on range and lack of air refueling over Iran)



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