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Getting a driveway & DCC Dishing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭JohnRock


    Thank you for all the comments. I've made my application to DCC. There's a 4 month waiting list just for inspection. I'll let you know how it goes for anyone else who needs it done.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,384 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭thewiseowl12


    Apologies for resurrecting an old thread.

    Follow up query in relation to planning and dishing. Based in Cabra and put in for planning for vehicular access - followed all criteria in terms of keeping the opening no more than 3m, permeable driveway etc, and it has been refused because of a tree within 3.5m of the proposed dishing. The reply says that they don't wish to see precedent and there is no way I can satisfy that condition.

    What galls me is that literally no house on the road has planning permission for their driveways (planner even noted this in decision, some are dished, some are not for whatever reason) and(!) that every tree on the road has dishing within 1m, including my neighbour, who is within 1m of the tree in question. So there is no precedent to set!

    Grateful for advice on options - I've two weeks to appeal to an bord pleanala - its €220 and 18 weeks though.

    Could I resubmit a planning application and cite all the examples on the road already! €35 and 8 weeks)

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Appeal it or an bord pleanala



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I’ve had 2 refusals for driveways in the last 15 years.

    1 was a dangerous bend which I advised but client wanted to take the chance.

    2 was because of the new Dublin City tree strategy. We were within 1m or so. I’ll have to check.

    Basically the tree strategy now is a valid reason for refusing but previously they would allow tree relocation.

    If you want to pm me the plan reg number I’ll take a look but you can ignore your neighbors examples as they are not legal precedents as they appear to be unauthorised. Unfortunately you are being penalized for going the correct route.

    You can appeal of course but a new planning app will require some change to the previous one and obviously require new drawings, newspaper notice etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭thewiseowl12


    Thanks Gumbo, really appreciate it and pm'd you there.

    My reading of it is that the planner had no objection in principle, apart from a few conditions, but the tree policy scuppered it. In practice, there is no way I can meet the 3.5m rule due to the width of our garden.

    There is also a communications box on the ground already adjacent to the tree so the root network is already being interfered with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭twiddleypop


    @thewiseowl12 any luck with the appeal?

    Also in Cabra and want to get driveway dished. I know the neighbours have been refused on the "precedent" grounds so wondering if I would be wasting my time.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    An appeal wit ABP takes 9-13 months. I wouldn’t expect a decision as his post was July.

    I don’t fully understand your question though. You don’t get refused on precedent usually you can quote legal precedent to support your application.

    Can you post the ref number or the reason for refusal for an interpretation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭twiddleypop


    The post was from July 2024!

    The DCC have a "We don't want to set a precedent" answer for applications.

    There are driveways on my road, no idea if they have the correct planning though.

    The issue is, we are in a cul-de-sac and none of the houses in the cul-de-sac have a driveway. The reason for refusal in the neighbours planning application is that it would negatively impact on street parking provision for the residents .



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