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The Weekend On One With Brendan O'Connor

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    So journalistic integrity should go out the window then? That’s a very dangerous line to walk. You’re essentially saying I don’t mind biased reporting because I don’t like that man. I hear this view expressed frequently in Ireland and it never ceases to amaze me.

    You are also of course assuming the audience doesn’t have the intelligence to make up their own minds and need a helping hand to guide them to the “correct” views and interpretations.

    I could point you to several books on the topic, but here’s a relatively short piece instead:

    https://harvardpolitics.com/the-importance-of-unbiased-press/

    RTE bias on American politics didn’t start with Trump btw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,181 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    There was no conspiracy or bias except on the part of the MAGA loons who kicked off the conspiracy theory in the first place.

    The idea that Tim Walz was somehow compromised by a connection to the shooter was unbelievable from the start.

    Boelter had just murdered two of Walz's Democrat colleagues and left two more for dead.

    He probably would have killed more if the police had not intervened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    That’s some deflection and a complete avoidance of commentary on the point I am making re. RTÉ bias on American Politics.

    It is a fact however that Boelter was a Democrat and re-appointed by Walz to a state board - RTÉ didn’t mention this at the time. Do I think it’s relevant and paints Walz in a bad light? No, and no - it’s not like they were personal friends or close colleagues after all. It sounds like he was a madman tbh.

    The point I’m making is had the shoe been on the other foot and he was a Republican and had been appointed by Trump do you really believe RTÉ wouldn’t have mentioned this - especially as it was widely reported on other outlets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    If you want to raise questions of RTE bias it's a bad example to talk about it using the example of why they didn't bring up this particular story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    That’s your opinion. Even the BBC had mentioned it.

    Are you denying that RTÉ have a pro-Democrat bias when it comes to their coverage of US Politics?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Yep, I would say they've a pro democrat bias and maybe, yes, there could be more interrogation and clear sighted analysis of democrats etc. But, equally I could say some of the behaviour of the republicans in recent times has been objectively bizarre.

    Okay, the BBC reported the story. But that doesn't mean that the story was worth talking about. If you look at the facts, it's a pretty tenous link. I don't see how RTE reporting on that would actually work as a credit in their favour in terms of objective and fact based reporting.

    You can bash RTE for many things IMO, but I have no issue with them not talking about that story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The facts speak for themselves, so to speak (I know I am not speaking). It is a reliable record, put in opposition to lies presented as facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    And again, do you think they’d have neglected to mention it were the shoe on the other foot and the shooter was a Republican that Trump had appointed - however tenuous the link was?

    Thank you however for agreeing that RTÉ have a pro-Democrat bias. And again for the record - my politics would be Democrat if I held a vote. I cannot however condone the blatant double standards and bias shown by the state broadcaster on these matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    My point is that I don't think that story was worth talking about. You raised it as an example of RTE bias in action? Does that mean you think it was worth talking about? Do you believe it?

    Slam RTE by all means, but to take umbrage over them not covering a non-story, because they might potentially cover a hypothetical aspect of a hypothetical story, if it were to potentially happen to the other side... Hmmm, I don't know if that's really a damning case for RTE bias, if you ask me.

    Have you read this:

    I'm sure you'll want the last word, so you can have it. I'm disagreeing with you here and I'm happy to leave it there before the thread gets closed/locked etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I’m not trying to have the last word but even that piece states “Walz, the former Democratic vice presidential nominee, reappointed Boelter in 2019 to a state board focused on Minnesota’s workforce.”

    In one of my previous replies to posts on this I said:

    “It is a fact however that Boelter was a Democrat and re-appointed by Walz to a state board - RTÉ didn’t mention this at the time. Do I think it’s relevant and paints Walz in a bad light? No, and no - it’s not like they were personal friends or close colleagues after all. It sounds like he was a madman tbh.” I’m not sure how much clearer I can be on that point?

    The fact he was appointed by Walz however was widely mentioned on Saturday/Sunday across media in the US and UK, indeed it was hard to find a report where it wasn’t mentioned. It was therefore quite noticeable that RTÉ didn’t mention it.

    I think it’s a relevant question to ask had the shoe been on the other foot would they have not mentioned it, that’s all. If you disagree with that, that’s fine. You are entitled to your opinion after all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Okay, I did say I didn't want to get into it and I kinda don't really. But you have said something there I don't think is true.

    It isn't a fact that he - the shooter - was a Democrat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Well again, unless the BBC were incorrect in their assertions he was - I’m happy to admit if I’m wrong on this btw but I’m just going on what the BBC said. It would however be somewhat unusual for a Democrat (Walz) to appoint/reappoint a Republican given how US politics works.

    Whether he was a Republican or a Democrat however doesn’t change the point on journalistic bias, which is ok according to some posters.🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Could you find me where the BBC reported this? I haven't seen that said elsewhere, but things may have been amended since.

    There's a reference in one of the fact checking articles linked to:

    "A spokesperson for Walz said the governor’s office appoints thousands of people of all political affiliations to legislature-created unpaid, external boards and commissions."

    You can have numerous boards for all manner of things at a state level in the US. People from the "opposing side" are frequently appointed or re-appointed. It's really not that madly unusual, especially if you have thousands of posts to fill. Even at a cabinet level it's been known for some Dems to serve under a Rep President and vice versa, AFAIK Obama had a few in his cabinet at least.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    It's not unusual at all. It's a bipartisan committee. There is no evidence at the moment that he was a Democrat, and some evidence to the contrary based on family and friend comments.

    I think expecting neutral coverage of politics outside Ireland is unrealistic in the extreme. Sure, we can expect RTE to report the facts on the news. But asking a magazine show where commentators give their opinion to both-sides foreign politics is nonsense. It is impossible not to look at it through a lens of what is normal in Ireland. RTE includes plenty of Republican views when having American commentators on their shows. It would be entirely unrepresentative of Irish society to have total "balance" when Irish commentators are discussing the majority of issues in American politics, or Russian politics, or North Korean politics. Where do we draw the line at "impartial" "unbiased" commentary on international politics? Do we need to both-sides every tinpot dictatorship in the world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,745 ✭✭✭jacool


    Slightly off-topic here, and I apologise, but what I found distasteful and disturbing was that only 5% of commentary on X was on the news, and 95% on (and being re-hashed here to an extent) whether or not the perpetrator was Dem or Rep!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    It wasn’t discussed in the panel segment. It was a 1:1 between the host and Niall Stanage before the panel were introduced.

    One of the reasons Stanage was so good on the Dunphy podcast in the 18months - 2 years prior to the last US Presidential Elections was precisely because he analysed BOTH sides and was critical of both. This was in contrast to the widespread gushing and praise afforded to one side in the more mainstream mefia (particularly but not limited to RTÉ) on our shores.

    Regarding balance, RTÉ seem well able to give the Israeli side of things by contrast.

    Also, is America a tinpot dictatorship now?

    Again I’ll refer you to the Harvard article I linked earlier. If you can’t see why journalistic impartiality and integrity from a state broadcaster are important I really don’t know what to say to you. It really is an astonishing position to have. You’re ok with it when it suits your narrative or you agree with the bias - what happens when it doesn’t? It’s not an exaggeration to say a biased media is a challenge to democracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    I didn't say America was a tinpot dictatorship - but if you want impartiality in foreign political commentary then that will extend to such countries.

    Personally I don't see what you say at all about coverage of Israel - I think RTE presents a very anti-Israeli view of current events outside of the actual news. And I think that's entirely normal from an Irish perspective.

    I see value in reporting accurate facts on the news in an unbiased impartial way. I think RTE needs to be extremely careful not to show bias in political commentary on Irish issues - I think they're often lacking here. I don't see the need for unbiased impartial commentary on foreign politics from our state broadcaster - I think instead they need to try to represent the typical perspectives of Irish society when engaging in commentary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Is there anywhere on Irish radio for MAGA fans to listen to their conspiracy theories get a fair hearing? Certainly not Newtalk or Today FM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Are you suggesting or implying I’m a MAGA fan or a conspiracy theorist?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Stella O'Malley on being ghosted by RTE. What an absolute coward ballsy is. Relates to a recent piece by Hugh Linehan

    https://www.irishtimes.com/media/2025/06/10/why-is-irish-media-so-reticent-about-covering-gender-issues/

    At the beginning of 2023, I was preparing to release my book What Your Teen is Trying to Tell You — a broad-based guide to adolescent mental health. It covered a wide range of topics, including anxiety, eating disorders, and school refusal. It wasn’t particularly focused on trans issues, as my other book, When Kids Say They’re Trans (also released in 2023), explored that subject in more depth.

    The release of a book is a highly orchestrated affair. RTÉ comes first, followed by other radio stations, and then print interviews. Everything is timed with precision so the PR campaign can land cleanly and effectively. My publishers had arranged an interview with Miriam O’Callaghan, which would be followed by a series of other media appearances. The RTÉ interview was the cornerstone of the campaign.

    That’s why I became concerned when Brendan O’Connor — who had previously endorsed my work with enthusiasm — asked the publishers to remove his name from the cover of my book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,181 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2025/0617/1518882-trump-minnesota/

    "The guy doesn't have a clue. He's a mess. So I could be nice and call him, but why waste time?"

    Both side that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Not sure what that has to do with my point around RTÉ bias but ok 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Dearbhaill (spelling??) in again today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I don't get it. Is he obliged to have his name on all her books? Or what exactly was the order of events?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,357 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    are we shocked?

    she must have done as many shows as BOC this year.

    He's taking the p1ss at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    A better question is there anywhere on Irish radio where you can hear genuine conservative viewpoints put across? On housing for example, has anyone actually discussed demand?

    When it comes to Trump, discourse here seems to be as deep as "stupid Americans taken in by a conman" but completely fails to grasp or analyse the conditions that allowed a figure like Trump to win high office. Funnily enough it's the same refusal to discuss that will see a coherent hard right eventually emerge here.

    Stand-in in for O'Connor again today. He's missed a good bit of time this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,760 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    What's your definition of Conservative? Because you hear the views of the main centre right parties (FF and FG) as well as Aontu frequently. You also hear the opposition left parties quite a bit.

    What you don't hear are the extreme right wing because they are (a) extreme and (b) not represented in the dail.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    FF and especially FG are not centre right when it comes to social issues. I mean for example you had Regina Doherty claim there were 9 genders, that's hardly something the right would be comfortable with. Aontu are on the right but they haven't figured out what exactly they are about. It seems to be mostly a cantankerous Peadar Toibin show.

    The extreme right you're correct don't get air time but the extreme left do. You can excuse elected representatives of course since they do have a mandate, but as if seemingly there wasn't enough of those, the likes of Ruth coppinger still got airtime when she was out of office.

    There is just no plurality in discourse and O'Connors show is just the same

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