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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,788 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Its only going to escalate. Protesters will protest against the national guard. Someone will get killed, riots will escalate and then the army will be deployed

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,788 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Gavin Newsom will order the national guard to stand down. They will have a choice, to obey Trumps orders, or disobey them....

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    The 'off with their heads' part is closer than trump and his gang realise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Can't treat people like this, especially people that are armed to their teeth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,788 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Start with Stephen Miller

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Tanks rolled into Washington for the little boy's birthday party next week. I'm sure all the maga clowns that delight in calling liberals commies every 5 minutes will be strangely quiet when the North Korean style military parade is in full swing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    People with options don't want to do crap, backbreaking work at terrible hours for misers who'll pay minimum wage. I grew up on a farm and emigrated as soon as I could find work.

    Notice the language used. It's not "What have I done to America?" or "What will the world think?". It's lamenting that he himself is now out of pocket. If that wasn't the case, he'd still be full blown MAGA even if it was the farm next door suffering.

    These people deserve everything they get and then some and I live in post-Brexit Britain.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    He is absolutely f*cking deranged!

    From CNN:

    “Great job by the National Guard in Los Angeles after two days of violence, clashes and unrest,” the president said in a post on Truth Social.

    But LA Mayor Karen Bass responded minutes later on X, saying: “Just to be clear, the National Guard has not been deployed in the City of Los Angeles.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Most of the maga crowd is a combination of ignorance and bigotry, so I hope they all get their just deserts. The more hardship for them, the better, to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,059 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    What will historians make of all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Not much different from Germany in the 1930s I would think.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭yagan


    Nah, Germany actually made things and wanted an empire like Britain and France had at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,059 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    He's basically declaring war on california



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bog master


    Trump Press Secretary yesterday.

    “The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior and violence, especially when that violence is aimed at law enforcement officers trying to do their jobs….."

    What about those Jan 6 criminals that were pardoned?????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,788 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Civil war, he has been a disgrace from day one, absolutely looney tunes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭yagan


    All the boogaloo boys shining their AR 15s right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭EmergencyExit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So does the US. It also is an empire. It's just disguised by the fact that most of it is one contiguous landmass but be under no false impressions, it is absolutely an empire.

    Let's do a checklist:

    • Single leader as an object for adoration and devotion? Check - Trump
    • Enemy without? Check - EU, China, UN, WHO, etc
    • Enemy within? Check - Socialists, the left, "woke", liberals, "the elite", anti-Trumpers, BLM, Trans people, Muslims, etc…
    • Legions of devoted followers lyal to the aforementioned leader? Check
    • Promise to restore the country's former glory? Check - Literally MAGA
    • Emphasis on racial purity of the nation? Check - Literal comments about "Poisoning the blood of our nation"
    • Crusade against free speech? Check - Deportation of dissenting students and open aspiration to go much further
    • Worship of force? Check - Police & Army - They are having a parade for dear leader's birthday as I recall
    • Empty promises to help the little guy - Check, "MAGA"
    • Demonisation of education? - Check - See attacks on Universities
    • Hatred of Institutions? Check - Attacks on courts, CDC, etc…

    I could probably go on but I think the point is clear.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,059 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    They created all of this, america was stable last year, Trump told America they had problems only he could fix, then he created the problems, its batshit lunacy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    You'd think this would be the perfect time for them to exercise their precious second amendment rights against a tyrannical government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    I don't think any of those LA protestors have an issue with foreign born criminals, especially violent ones or gang members, being deported after due process. I don't have a problem with that myself in Ireland.

    But what the Trump administration, and especially that ghoul Stephen Miller, is doing is setting unrealistically high deportation targets for ICE. To meet those targets, they are going after immigrants, many of whom have been in the US legally for years or even decades. Some of them may have made an small admin error at one point in their immigration process but they still 100% do not deserve to be deported without recourse. In many cases, they are torn from their spouses and young families, and leave their community shocked at what happened. It is beyond cruel and morally reprehensible.

    I know this because of the US political people I follow on Twitter but I don't know if the wider US public is aware of the extent of this. One thing we've seen from recent elections is that a lot of Americans have a shockingly poor knowledge of general politics. Perhaps these protests will shine a brighter light on the issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭yagan


    I wouldn't call it a territorial empire in the same guise as Britain and France in the early 20th century for the simple reason that their power was based on controlling the global oil trade to the point that even their cold war rival needed to use USD to sell oil to fund their own empire!

    I haven't seen much comment about it here but the rapid appreciation of the Taiwanese Dollar a month ago was entirely based on a massive sale of chips to China without using the USD.

    The type of drones attacks we've seen this week also highlights the vulnerability of the all of the US military bases around the world. The US empire is its currency, but it's a castle built on sand as more trade is conducted in other currencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,169 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The gameplay is

    1) blame foreigners for everything

    2) select the battleground as LA, as MAGA hate liberal cities

    3) stir sh1t up with the locals

    4) understandably,blocals protest

    5) use that as an excuse to send in the National Guard

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    America the beautiful eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Apparently it is the greatest country in the world! 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I would. The British and French empires were just land grabs. The Americans, by contrast, brought things with them such as Common Law and their own culture and ethos. Of course, they were also quite thorough in evicting the locals whereas the British and French only rarely had this as a viable option.

    The same of course could be said of Russia.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,951 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    According to every American who doesn't possess a passport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,841 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    There's a German produced TV series "Abyss, Rise & Fall of the Nazis" along with the recent BBC series "Nazis, a warning from history" that should be required viewing for MAGA heads who think Demagogues and Fascism are the answer to any of their issues.

    I would usually recommend books but those are anathema to the masses of red hats.

    Anyway, those 2 series a thought occured. Where would a yank watch them? Most likely PBS and...

    PBS are part of the "enemy" there now. The rise of anti-intellectualism in the US has reached a crescendo. Universities, Experts & the educated are now clearly labelled as part of the "Problem" along with accurate media, factual reporting and activist Law firms.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Might check the latter out on BBC iPlayer.

    What books would you recommend?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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