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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,257 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Yeah I think a lot of the negative stuff associated with it wouldn't be tolerated by young un's these days. Imagine putting a group of health conscious Gen zer's into a time machine and sending them back to a smoke filled 90's nightclub stuck to the side of a hotel somewhere.

    I'd doubt they'd like it all that much. It wouldn't be very "instagramable". They'd rather have their photo taken with Conor McGregor in the Black Forge Inn, or showing off the gym body in Marbella.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    is this what people of a certain age think all younger people do or something?

    In early 30’s and I don’t go to nightclubs or pubs because the people there are usually freaks and it costs too much to justify.

    I’d rather stay home with the Mrs, order in food, smoke a few beers, get me hole, go to bed.


    won’t tell me getting your eardrums burst, potentially given a seizure with strobe lights and probably sexually assaulted is a more fun evening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Even without instagram, a lot of those places were actually smoky, damp, manky carpet ridden sh1t holes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Orban6


    Sorry, I meant within a 2 mile radius of me. Actually I under estimated slightly, just over 2.5 mile radius.

    The 2 pubs remaining are about 5.5 miles apart on the same road.

    There were 3 others between them on that road. The other 2 were on a road off that road. One of those was likely a victim of Covid. It reopened briefly but closed shortly after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Most people hated nightclubs back when I was young too. You just had to put up with them to get a drink past 11. People talking about techo in clubs must be older than me because all I remember is pop music. Shte like 50 Cent, Black Eyed Peas and worst of all that fuking "We are young" song.

    I would say like me you don't have a clue what young people actually do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    You are the only one knows the area so do you think 7 pubs was the right amount or a bit much in an era men don't drink 7 nights a week ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,333 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Dunno the source of this graph but it's a bit grim if correct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Defo have to agree ….. like you I do not go to pubs that often and stopped going on regular basis in around 2013 ….. precisely because of this attitude ….. staff stopping serving before closing time and having an attitude ….. also staff listening to loud modern country music on a radio and ignoring customers ….. I believe opening and closing times should be stated in plain sight for customers to see …..

    A lot of these old places do not make the effort and have staff with an attitude ….. yet they think they have a god given right to our custom ….. if pubs were as 'magic' as some claim more would go to them ….. 95% of what I saw in pubs down the years were drunks, self styled Pat Kennies moaning about Anglo Irish Bank, unfriendly staff, impersonal bands, disillusioned owners and uninventive drink choices ……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Has to be cost. A fiver odd for a pint,get a cheap six pack for not much more than a tenner. Plus weed a coke,no hangover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Orban6


    It was too many, particularly when there were pubs almost beside each other. Just not enough people within walking distance (no car parks).

    One of the pubs that closed, did okay at the weekend when they served food but when that stopped, they lost most of their trade.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Staff we're crap long before 2013 and probably always were. Ide say you just started to notice more.

    I totally agree about owners though as many are clueless. You hear this a lot especially when it comes to things like pedestrianisation that "no one knows better than the business owners about their own business" and it is shockingly untrue in so many instances. Usually they either never had a clue or their ideas are 30 years out of date.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    stop🤣

    More time spent in church than college? Spoofing. I’m sure there’s some truth to it but it’s likely just overblown to create hysteria.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,257 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    You had to put up with them to get the shift/ride.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I grew up working in pubs, from 13 years old until I was about 30. Always wanted my own pub but never had the money to invest. Became a bar manager in a large hotel but I could see the end of the trade coming. Thankfully I was never able to get the money together. Pubs were dying but COVID really put the nail in the coffin.

    It's too expensive now to run a pub/nightclub unless you are in a really good location. Outside of good locations in very large towns or cities, forget about it.

    I'm from a small rural town that used to have 18 pubs about 20 years ago. We've 5 now and only one of them does any business worth talking about. The others only open in the evenings and will close down when the owners retire. By the looks of things their owners seem to be doing it for a hobby rather than making any money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Do you know if there has been a swing away from pub owners owning their own location? To me it seems that back in the day that the premises was owned by the publican, maybe more so in rural locations where it may have also been a shop, and this helped keep down what would be a big cost these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,586 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Grogan's (aka The Castle Lounge) is famous for its ham and cheese toasties.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,586 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I've very limited experience of small town nightclubs, the sort of places where getting out alive felt like a bonus 😀

    But even in the cities now, nightclubs are dying a death. There used to be at least one in every big suburb in Dublin, they're all gone now and even the city centre ones are nearly all gone.

    The future of the human race is at stake!

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭mjp


    Where do young single people go to meet someone for a night and get their hole. This was my experience in C Face Jacks 15 years ago. Has tinder replaced this or is it just not happening anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Staff seem to be one extreme or other …… some cannot do enough for you and thankfully that is what I found in most places ….. except pubs !! … pub staff have been woeful before 2013 but yes began to notice in the years leading up to it …..

    The owners are clueless often ….. often lazy ….. unclued into what customers want …… or hating their job but can't sell their going concern …..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Seems to be a lot more late bars around now. Far nicer that some big crappy uncomfortable room that you had to pay for the pleasure of entering.

    But nightclubs do still exist. Limerick City has 3 "proper" nightclubs which is all I ever remember it having.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,257 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    My local nightclub was so bad it used to have an ambulance on standby. The carnage that went on. It's a gym now which is not surprising.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,102 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    You say the locals will ask new people questions about themselves and mistake it for paranoia. It's just general curiosity, often delivered without airs or graces. It's not threatening.

    My Village has one out and everyone knows everyone. So of a new person walks in, they're the most interesting thing to enter the pub all week. Of course the locals are going to be curious. It's natural. Asking questions is one way to start a conversation.

    In this thread we've seen people call the community pubs both a myth hostile. They can't be both. Maybe some people only want the anonymous city pubs where nobody knows anyone. That's grand, there are plenty of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The idea that city centre pubs are anonymous is a myth. It's just you get left alone if that's your preference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,102 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I take your word for it.

    How do you indicate your preference for being left alone or chatting?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭Charlo30


    I realise you weren't directing the comment to me. But what I tend to do if not in the mood for conversation is stick in my headphones or take out a book. Both methods generally discourage conversation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Just ignore anyone who tries to start a conversation.

    Works for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Where you sit would be one way. Big difference in sitting at the bar and in a quiet corner. It's left to you to show engagement if you so wish.

    City pubs are full of community and best of all you get to pick your community.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Did some work for a nightclub in Drogheda before COVID. He said on average they sell less than 1 drink per person on a Saturday night.

    Most people predrink at home, then buy one drink when they get in the door, and that's it.

    I didn't ask about cocaine use, but I assume that's a big factor too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭George White


    Honestly, do we think Gerry Ryan's death made cocaine cool in Ireland?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,129 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I haven't worked in an Irish nightclub since 2012 so I don't know what it's like now but people talked like that back then but it wasn't true. Owners love to play the poor mouth.

    I don't know many people who can get drunk on pre-drink and then resist continuing to drink for the night. I also don't know anyone who takes coke who isn't also mad for the drink. In my experience it makes people drink more.

    Nightclubs are dying because they were and are pure sht. They were a stupid Irish solution to a stupid Irish problem.



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