Hamas strike on Israel

It could i guess be classed as an anecdote so is against the rules. But to be honest I would have a hard time if I was trapped at a dinner party with some of the pro Israel posters here so with that I can sympathise.

Something I don't understand (and I don't follow everything on this thread so perhaps it's been discussed already) but if they believed that 14,000 babies were at imminent risk of starvation, why was there a UN warehouse full of tonnes of food, some of it stored there apparently for the previous 10 days??

And if it's because they couldn't get it out to the people, then why are they saying that the UN can get the food to the people?

People are either anti Israel or anti Palestinian on this thread

That's woefully incorrect.

This isn't a scenario wherein criticism of one side means an automatic and unassailable support for the other. (For the majority of posters; some are more black and white).

If I criticise Israel; it does not mean I condone/support their attacks. If I criticise Hamas, it does not mean I condone Israeli military actions and/or government policy in relation to Palestinians.

So people are not starving, it's only baby formula thay they're short of?? That's not what they've been saying though.

And I wonder if you'd be so understanding if the Israelis had made a similar exaggeration? Because these are the same people that were holding that food from hungry people, simultaneously not giving out the food, but also telling the British news that people were starving. Seems well dodgy to me.

Hold on a sec - the Israelis are a belligerent in this war. As are Hamas.

A UN official made the claim right? So not a belligerent in this war. You can't equate a UN official being misconstrued as being in anyway akin to Israel telling lies. If people here were taking the word of Hamas (which they aren't - anything critical of Israel is not Hamas despite what you and your buddies seem to subscribe to), you would have a point.

Lastly - are you saying people aren't being starved? That is insane. Israeli politicians are saying they are doing it! Why do you ignore what they are saying themselves?

You do know that people can use flour themselves, they don't have to wait for a bakery to bake bread - and if they couldn't open the bakeries, and people were genuinely hungry, then they needed to give out the flour so people could use it themselves. Have you never made bread? It's not difficult to do.

No, there's something seriously off with that story.

The UN are complicit in starving the Palestinians so in bed with Israel? Haven't heard that one before. Hard to believe it tbh, but unfortunately it's impossible to know what is going on on the ground as journalists can't get in.

None of this would even be an issue if the terrorist state was allowing humanitarian aid in. There are hundreds of UN trucks full of food at the Gaza border this evening ready to go in.

I don't know much about Israel funding Hamas tbh. Read it here a few times, and Netenyahu openly said he was doing it. Makes sense in terms of splitting/ dividing the Palestinians, but also an extremely sociopathic thing to do with the lives of your own people. When those Hamas leads get hauled over the coals for what they did, Netenyahu and whoever facilitated payments to them should be too, they are partly responsible.

With regards to the UN distributing food - they can't. Israel are using starvation as a weapon of war - if the UN are going to counteract this by distributing food during a genocide, do you think they would be safe?

If you worked for the UN, and you know how people who keep Palestinians alive are systematically targeted by the IDF (doctors, nurses, aid workers, paramedics, etc), would you go in there to give out food? If you had people working for you with wives/ kids etc, would you send them in?

Indeed you are only guessing.

You clearly don't know much about the history of the region.

Yet there are folk on here who seem to try to convince people that they know everything that goes on there.

Chapter and verse…

Strange that?