Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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1 post isn't "plastering"

What are that posters ideals?

Their ideals seem to be publicising the stories of the innocents victims of the conflict. In any other conflict this would be seen as a good thing.

The one which is holding what, about 2 million as hostages, yet plenty of posters here believe they are defeated. And they should be treated as part of negotiations..

Israel has been blockading Gaza for years. Its not just Hamas which is the problem. They may hopefully be disbanded but the Israeli regime that is stealing land and bombing and killing tens of thousands in Gaza will still remain.

Theres an article on the newrepublic.com it says Israel is sending in food aid that's enough to feed maybe 40 per cent of the population in Gaza they switched away from the UN to a new company that is causing chaos people are rushing into food center s in mob

So thousands of women children will never even see food they will die of starvation only the strong will survive also most people have no access to basic supplies nappys tampons basic medical supplies Palestinians are in hell most buildings are in rubble low supplies of water if you do,nt get bombed you will starve this is just mass punishment of civilians and genocide under the human rights international law it's illegal imagine if 5 people are in a cell in jail. They throw in a bag of food just enough to feed 3 people only the strong and ruthless will survive The only hope is if the eu propose Trade sanctions against Israel that ask for food and medical supplies to be sent in to feed the whole of Gaza

You’re absolutely right - war is horrific. It’s brutal, children suffer, and the images coming out of Gaza are heartbreaking. But don’t confuse moral outrage with strategic clarity. War is not supposed to be fair. It’s not a two-player sport with a referee to blow the whistle when one side’s had enough.

Now, this war could end today - if Hamas chose to end it. But they won’t, because they don’t care about the innocent people of Gaza. Their leadership isn’t even based there. They’re sitting safely abroad while civilians pay the price. So this idea that some posters are pushing that they can't stop the war because Israel is bombing Gaza is just another weak excuse, a pathetic attempt to deflect blame and protect Hamas.

Hamas doesn’t get to fire rockets from civilian neighborhoods, hide weapons in hospitals, and use human shields - all of which they’ve been doing long before October 7th - and then cry victim when the war hits back. You don’t get to wage asymmetrical war and expect symmetrical consequences. If you bring the fight, you live with the fight, to be more frank. That’s the brutal logic of war, not because it’s right, but because that’s how it works.

It’s easy to point fingers at Israel for having shelters, sirens, and the Iron Dome, as if protecting your civilians is some kind of moral failing. What exactly do you expect them to do? Dismantle their defenses to make it more "even"? That’s not how survival or war works. One side in this war invested in shielding its people. The other uses its people to shield weapons.

Yes, it’s devastating. Yes, it’s unfair. But war doesn’t care. And no amount of poetic outrage is going to change that. Hamas is losing this war, and surrender is the only card they have left if they want to avoid total destruction.

War doesnt care and alot of Israeli supporters dont care. Hamas and the Israeli Regime as voted for by the Israeli public are both problems. I dont see much chance of peace whatever happens next. judging by the words being spoken by the both sets of leaders.

I would strongly advise you to limit your crazy views to anonymous posts on the Internet. Most normal people would find your views to be entirely unacceptable

Hamas surrender, then Israel rapidly occupy Gaza as a "security measure to ensure Oct 7th never happens again". The two state solution is kaput at this point and Gaza's annexation is assured. West Bank is next, considering Israel already control 60% of it in Area C.

Yet another post - admittedly more verbose that the countless other ones - that reduces the mass murder and starvation of tens of thousands of men women and children to "sh*t happens".

I wonder were you and your buddies arguing the same thing after October 7th?

They did actually attempt that if you recall the phone bombing thing, but obviously that was in addition to the indiscriminate bombing of buildings where they claimed a few Hamas members were occupying.

They could very well have sent in elite forces to tackle Hamas head to head, though preferring the more cowardly approach of bombing from a distance due to fear of more soldiers being captured.

And those who support Israel often claim in this thread "why aren't Hamas brave and face Israel head on in battle" when even Israel won't do that.

Israel accuses France’s Macron of 'crusade against the Jewish state’

Israel has accused French president Emmanuel Macron of undertaking a “crusade against the Jewish state” after he called for European countries to harden their stance on Israel if the humanitarian situation in Gaza did not improve.

“There is no humanitarian blockade. That is a blatant lie,” Israel’s foreign ministry said in a statement, defending its efforts to allow in aid. “But instead of applying pressure on the jihadist terrorists, Macron wants to reward them with a Palestinian state. No doubt its national day will be October 7.”

The entire idea that this is Israel's fight for survival is ludicrous. The gift of a Palestinian state is theirs to give, and they simply won't do it. Why was it not a state before October 7th? Why did Israel prop up Hamas to stop it ever happening?

Can any Israel supporter answer any of this.

Breaking news - shock horror, football match suspended for a few minutes.

Meanwhile, in other routine news today - children starved to death, Palestinians shredded in multiple air strikes and Irish Peacekeepers shot at.

No need for the hyperbole and no need to disrespect the President - he's not obsessed with Israel, he just has morals and is commenting on the brutal Genocide in Gaza (which you appear to support).

Israel hasn't wanted the hostages released since last summer.

It would entirely stymie their plan, currently being executed, of cleansing Gaza then settling it.