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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭randd1


    Hurling is poor.

    It’s too staid, it’s like a sport being played by excel sheet. It’s too stop start, 70/80 shots on goal, the ball out of play after 20 seconds. Constant throwing and breaking of the steps rule meaning the ball is in hand more than on the hurl. Constant fouling.

    The sport needs an overhaul. Unfortunately, there’s too many cowards in the GAA to tackle the prevailing opinion of the Sunday Game panelists, who believe the modern possession based hurling means the sport has never been better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Seadin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,480 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Waterford with loss 18 out of 24 in round robin Munster hurling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭Montys return


    Better team won no argument there. Maybe the cynicism will serve them well, but don't complain to me if it comes to bite them later on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Seadin


    You swear Cork are the dirtiest team in championship. Get a grip.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    From what we've seen so far I couldn't see past Limerick for the AI. Seem really back at it this year and on form are just a lot ahead of the rest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It wasn't a great performance by Cork but we did what he had to do. We'll be underdogs against Limerick but i think there's a big performance in us.

    Even though i like Galway it's a shame Waterford weren't able to get over the line in 2017 that really was their now or never moment. Hard luck to them today they've been having an awful time with the round robin format!

    The fear is apparently they could be in for a few really barren years at senior level when the older players retire. Hopefully that won't be the case though.

    Congrats to Offaly as well i was delighted to see them secure their McCarthy cup status for at least another year.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Championship structure in the small needs a rejig. At least put 4 teams through and have proper QFs. Ridiculous rule allowing Joe mc donagh teams in. Other than that play a knockout provincials and a mixed group stage. At this stage it's fairly clear that at least limerick and Cork will be in the last 4 given that you have a poor dublin team on that side of the draw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭Montys return


    Not what I said, but they might be the most cynical. Certainly up there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭supernova5




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Unfortunately the current tiers in hurling don't have the number of teams to fill four QFs without a meaningful knockout prior to this. 5 Munster + 3 Leinster on quality would probably fill these. We would only lose a Dublin or Wexford to 9th place and its quickly at the point of why bother playing anything before the QF stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Even though i like Galway it's a shame Waterford weren't able to get over the line in 2017 that really was their now or never moment.

    There was no getting over the line that day for Waterford, Galway were favorites on the day & a significantly better team. Waterford didn't leave it behind in any way that day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Seadin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    They did, as they do in finals, but that Galway team was so strong even that didn't leave the result in much doubt that day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Agree, Cork great for 35 mins v Clare as well, but have struggled since, allowing for the sending off before the Tipp game, hard to know where they stand really - rest of games largely muck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    how many games remain in the hurling champ altogether? 2 provincial finals.. 2 quarterfinals.. 2 semifinals.. final.. 7 games.. am i right or wrong?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,144 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Good win for Cork. Waterford were a little limited and even a flat enough Cork performance was enough to win.

    One week Cork are very soft and the next week they are seriously cynical.

    Limerick the clear favourites for Munster and the All Ireland.

    There is an improvement available to Cork. We might not see it until the knock out games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    They had a great year that year though taking out both Kilkenny and Cork on their way to the final. I remember with about ten minutes to go thinking they were right in the game. Alas it just wasn't to be for them in the end!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It was good to see Joe Canning finally win an Ireland medal though. Hopefull Hoggie might finally win his medal this year!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I would love to believe it. Hope you are spot on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    If we win the all Ireland by way of someone else knocking out Limerick for us, then i'd be more than happy with that scenario as well!

    For all the success Kilkenny have enjoyed under Cody, the last team to be feared to this extent by some Cork fans was that Tipperary team from the early to mid 60's.

    They used to dish out some brutal hammerings to us! Oh god and then there was 1991 i'll always hate Tipp more than i do Kilkenny!🤣

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,482 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Not even the June Bank Holiday and 9 tier 1 teams out of the championship because of the calendar

    We forgot the person who introduced it was/is chairman of New York GAA who get a load of players coming over to play over the summer months. There's still club matches happening in the pissing rain in November/December with some county finals still be played the same time pre this new calendar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    Disappointing game in Cork. Even the majority cork fans never really got into it. Connolly and Barrett were very good as well as the old reliable harnedy. Coleman gets a lot of stick from his own fans but I thought he did fine. Tim o mahony was very poor though.

    For all the negativity about waterfords future some of the young lads were very good. Mark and Patrick Fitzgerald plus Sean Walsh did well in his first start.

    Cork will improve you can bé Sure. Might Not be enough to beat limerick in 2 weeks but they'll beat dublin in a quarter final and will be a very dangerous team in croke park. Put downey o' Leary and Dalton back there and their squad improves plenty. Pity for mellerick, looked to get a nasty hand injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,113 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Course after the 2006 final there was only two meetings between the teams when kk were at their height, so the rivalry kind of died out and kk v tipp was the big thing. From 1998-2006 though, it was a fantastic rivalry, two teams with very different identities that really didn't like one another at all, but tremendous respect.

    But I also grew up hating tipp a lot more than Cork! And that despite having a cork mother and spending my summers in carrigtwohill where my nan (herself a kilkenny woman!) lived.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭letsseehere14


    Was an ok round robin this year. I guess we cant always get epic last rounds. Today lacked energy it seems and we were robbed of a potential classic in Cork v Tipp. Notably, my own county man, who brandished an early red against Tipp, seems to have kept his hand out of his pocket for obvious black and red cards today. So what are the rules? It seems to depend on the occasion. Early round robin totally different to knockout. Pretty pathetic from the refs and GAA. Heard there should have been reds in the Galway game too that weren't given.

    The worry now is if some teams fall away given a mixture of age profiles and underage conveyor belts. The next few years could become more predictable.

    I had a look at Leinster and Munster and the scoring stats match up pretty closely when you remove Offaly (-30) and Antrim (-77) and focus on the top 4 in Leinster vs the 5 in Munster. A theme put forward the last few years and restated on the Kilkenny thread this year is that there's no defending in Munster…well:

    10 Round Robin games in Munster

    Average score of 1.65-22.95 or 27.9 - Call it 2-22

    Home wins 5 (50%)

    Away wins 3 (30%)

    Draws 2 (20%)

    Average margin of Victory - 6.8

    Average winning score - 2.375-24.625 or 31.75 - call it 2-26

    10+ point victories - 2 (20%)

    6 Round Robin games in Leinster (without Antrim and Offaly)

    Average score of 2.25-21.08 or 27.83 - Call it 2-22

    Home wins 5 (83%)

    Away wins 1 (17%)

    Draws 0 (0%)

    Average margin of Victory - 7.0

    Average winning score - 2.33-24.33 or 31.32 - call it 2-25

    10+ point victories - 2 (33.33%)

    Scoring extremely similar, Munster much less predicable for home results.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Denny61


    your wrong..its Nine games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Denny61


    9 games left not 7



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,753 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    It's cost us 2 all irelands in past. Cost us numerous games in Munster down years.

    Spare us the BS that Cork are only ones that do it.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    there are 2 games that are preliminary quarter-finals against joe mcdonagh teams.. pointless games that will be one-sided i wasnt counting them… having said that will be interesting to see how Kildare fare out against Liam McCarthy opposition



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,847 ✭✭✭threeball


    Limerick significantly ahead of everyone else. Outside an off day it's their title.

    The pack are pretty stagnant without anyone really looking capable of challenging and no real sign of any team coming round the corner. Most games have been fairly error ridden affairs with poor hurling and alot of bad decisions. Hurling was always a tough sell to the non hurling counties but there was an opportunity over the last decade with the disillusionment round football. Now that's experiencing a bit of a renaissance it doesn't bode well for the games growth.



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