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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,580 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭Hibernicis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Leaving the field open for McGregor

    joking… I hope

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,625 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Thank god although i would have loved popping up at his events to ask him about his flip flopping hypocritical opinions on Dublin transport schemes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,285 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    He's pretty consistent on those, I think - if they affect his rental properties; they're worse than Satan; otherwise he just bitches about everything pro- and anti- them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,625 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    He's really not consistent at all unless you mean he is concostent in opposing any and all transport infrastructure projects for Dublin. He opposed the luas during its planning and said we needed a metro instead, now he opposes the metro and claims we need more light rail and I would bet a hell of a lot of money if metro got canceled in favor of more luas lines he would flip flop back to be against that. Also it is absolutely due to his properties, he was the main force behind scrapping the main greenline metro out to Sandyford by spreading the lies the entire green line would be closed for 18 months, in actuality only indivodual stops would have been closed for small periods altogether over a period of 18 months and connections would have been arramged between them.

    He is a cancer that wants to keep Dublin from making any major transport infrastructure progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,285 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That was my point, he's consistent in being against everything when its proposed, and then claims to have been for it when it's been cancelled - unless it affects his rental properties in Ranelagh in which case he's just purely against it.

    Him and the ancient "transport economists" who have a track record of being 100% wrong need to be barred from writing op/eds on transport. Or let the latter do it, with a foreward and final summary paragraph both pointing out that they opposed the DART, opposed the Luas etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭monseiur


    You could also have asked him why, as minister for Justice back in 2005, he agreed to pay €30 million for a 156 acre farm in north Co. Dublin known as Thornton Hall - that's roughly €192,000 per acre! ……………There's a phrase in Shakespeare's Hamlet that goes something like this 'Something is rotten in the state of Denmark'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    Could we have a repeat of 2004, one candidate elected unopposed (e.g. Peter Casey)?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Christ, if it looks like Casey would stand unopposed, I'd even try and get myself nominated and elected just to avoid the likes of him becoming President!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,580 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,160 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    There is zero chance of Peter Casey standing unopposed. When Mary McAleese stood unopposed in 2004, she was the incumbent with huge support among the population, as well as strong backing from the established political parties. Her re-election was a foregone conclusion. Casey has none of those things. It's not that likely he even manages to be nominated, never mind be a likely winner.

    The chances of any candidate that isn't an incumbent getting broad enough support to run unopposed is extremely unlikely at any Irish presidential election. In the current political landscape, it's virtually impossible

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,285 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    There is a very limited chance of Casey getting nominated let alone being able to run unopposed.

    Marie Geoghegan-Quinn being floated as an FF nominee now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    On what planet do you think this is going to happen?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Very very unlikely. The incumbent was in a position to nominate herself in 2004, and was seen as close to unbeatable, given the other candidates that were willing and able. That is not the case in 2025 as the incumbent is term limited. Also, a number of parties have indicate that they will or at least intend to nominate a candidate (e.g. FG and Aontu). It is also likely that the main parties will keep a much tighter rein on the County Councils than was the case in 2018, making it more difficult for independent candidates to get nominated by that route. And the only person who can self-nominate now is Mary Robinson, who is unlikely to do so.

    My best guess given what's in the public domain is a lineup along the following lines:

    • FG - McGuinness
    • FF - some random z-lister
    • Lab/SD/Others - Someone, unlikely to be electable unless Cairns can be convinced to run or they find a high profile quality outsider
    • SF - Some no-hoper party member unless they can pull in the likes of a Jarlath Burns
    • Others - one or two Egos/Agitators/Populists and possibly one or two "sensible" non-political candidates.
    • Oh and then there is of course McGregor, who has about as much hope Ryan, the other awful egoistical aspirant now that McDowell has thankfully ruled himself out (though I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if he changes his mind "in the national interest")

    But of course it's still early days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,730 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Can you vote for the president in the North ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,580 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not as yet,

    Referendum on Non resident voting rights was postponed in 2019 The government dissolved so the Bill was shelved.

    Nothing since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,895 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Nope. Have to be Irish citizen and registered in the Republic to vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    I don't think Fianna Fail will run a candidate at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    We only have the 1921 British Government to blame for that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 739 ✭✭✭myfreespirit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,895 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Don't think it was commented on here but Frances Black was on Anton Savage's show today on newstalk, she said she's 98% not going to run, but leaving the 2% just in case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Has Catherine Connolly ruled out a run yet?



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Just in case? What would persuade her, I wonder. I wouldn't vote for her myself but I'd imagine she would have a good chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,895 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    She implied that if somebody approached her in a certain way she'd be tempted. I suspect she thinks that a campaign is expensive and she'd likely lose anyway, so unless someone will find her, or the polls show she'd be in with a shout that she'll stay out. But she's left enough of the door open to jump in if the circumstances change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭Caquas


    There will be an election - unlike in the part, the parties won't throw in the towel before the bell sounds.

    I agree FG/McGuinness but Sean Kelly is also interested. PaddyPower has McGuinness at 15/8 which is nonsense for a race where no one has yet been nominated.

    FF held the Aras for 60 years but by 2011 its endorsement had become the kiss of death. Could they interest Mike Ryan of WHO? Not as an FF candidate but with FF/Independents support.

    The Left think they have a lock on the Aras after 14 years of Michael D. but Left parties (including the Greens) only won a third of the votes at the general election. I doubt if Frances Black or Catherine Connolly could broaden the Left's appeal and they would need to be campaigning over the summer if they want to do a Mary Robinson on it.

    Populists like McGregor won't make a serious impact. Even if they are not eliminated after the first count, they will be transfer toxic. A "quality" independent could run on the idea of keeping party politics out of the Aras but I can't think who that might be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,895 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Populist won't even get nominated. Likely we'll have 1 FF, 1 FG, 1 left, maybe 1 SF and maybe 1 centrist/right leaning independent.

    Even without names, I'd expect the race to end up being between whoever FG nominate and whoever the left consensus candidate happens to be. I can't see FF running anyone serious, same with SF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Mairead McGuinness will walk it ….. if she runs. See what I did there !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,580 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I would have thought she still had government/party leader/Taoiseach ambitions.

    She could very well be Ireland's first female Taoiseach IMO
    As Presidential elections are different and a single issue/controversy has derailed so many before it is a risky run for her.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,069 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Ivan Yates mentioned Brendan Howlin as a name he heard being mentioned as a candidate. Would he be a viable candidate ?



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