FF TD thinks learners should be allowed drive unaccompanied...

magicbastarder · 20-05-2025 11:36AM

if i saw a driver on a motorway doing 120km/h+ and i somehow knew they'd been doing that for nine hours or more, i'd give them a wide berth.

prawnsambo · 20-05-2025 06:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467230#Comment_123467230

Have you just assumed that they're taking no breaks?

Raichų · 20-05-2025 07:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468659#Comment_123468659

in fairness I agree with your sentiment about limiters, but you’re being a bit silly now, how could they know that?

How could you even know how long someone’s been driving unless you knew- cmon

prawnsambo · 20-05-2025 08:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468784#Comment_123468784

Just as silly as somehow knowing they've been driving for nine hours or more. I doubt it's even possible without a cast iron bladder or a catheter. Like what even is the point?

Raichų · 20-05-2025 08:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468914#Comment_123468914

I’d agree this whole thing is getting stupid. Why it needs be we’re inventing mad scenarios when it really isn’t a complicated issue- good drivers shouldn’t be subject to limitations due to bad drivers.

magicbastarder · 20-05-2025 08:24PM

Maybe the 'if I somehow knew' didn't signify strongly enough that I was talking about a hypothetical situation.

prawnsambo · 20-05-2025 08:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468932#Comment_123468932

And acknowledged as such:

Why it needs be we’re inventing mad scenarios

magicbastarder · 20-05-2025 08:29PM

Okay, I'll phrase it differently. I don't think someone who has driven 1000km in one day will be driving nearly as well at the end of that stint as they would at the start.

I had thought that meaning was obvious from what I said, but hey ho.

prawnsambo · 20-05-2025 08:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468951#Comment_123468951

Well having done that kind of drive regularly, I'd definitely say I was a bit tired at the end. But not to the point that my driving was incapacitated to any extent.

But then I take frequent breaks and make sure I'm well fed and hydrated.

Raichų · 20-05-2025 08:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123468951#Comment_123468951

I don’t know why you’re saying it at all considering it has nothing to do with either the thread topic or even the tangent it’s been brought on?

Raichų · 20-05-2025 08:38PM

Like how did we go from learners driving unaccompanied (thread topic) to speed limiters (tangent) to whether or not someone would be impaired after driving 1000km in a day?

magicbastarder · 20-05-2025 10:24PM

the notion of controlling speed and L drivers being limited was mentioned in the article linked in the very first post. that devolved into a discussion about the practicalities of such limiters. threads evolve; you seriously think threads should be strictly maintained within the parameters of the opening post? that'd be dull.

creedp · 20-05-2025 11:50PM

Meanwhile in the countryside we're smack bang in the middle of silage season and while us fully licensed car drivers are supposed to stick to a blanket 60kph speed limit on local roads young lads on a provisional license can unaccompanied hop on a tractor towing up to 20 ton on these so called dangerous roads. Was behind one such tractor this evening travelling at over 50kph and bouncing all over the road. I wonder are there stats to show which is more dangerous to VRUs, a car driven by a fully licenced driver bireaking this arbitrary speed limit, travelling at say 70kph, or a fully laden tractor and trailer driven at 50+ kph by an unaccompanied L driver. The roads and the rotr applicable are full of glaring inconsistencies and downright hypocrisy

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