How did Israel get so much influence? How can this be changed or overcome?

Trump is just making money. Plain and simple. Cares not one jot for any lives.

He's got weaponry to sell, and the Saudis have the money to spend. So both sides are happy.

But I wonder what the future will hold when he is selling vast amounts of US weaponry to a nation which has a very shady history, and who indeed seem to be up to their necks in involvement in 9/11

Macron also yesterday

Yes. Having issues posting here today and that comment was sliced./ After disappearing for a while 🙄

Meant to include Macron's statement and Netanyahu's response but the comment box and edit was completely borked !

Is this a CT too I wonder ? ;)

Anyone who criticizes the starvation and killing of Gazans now is most definitely a Hamas supporter / an Islamist / anti Semite , even people like Macron .

The Israeli government ( not Israelis because I don't believe ALL Israelis think this way ) can behave lije this because they are being propped up by an increasingly nuts US regime .

The heads of state in Europe and elsewhere need to stop seeing Israel through the lens of guilt post WW2 , and see them for what they are now ..a country being governed by a murderous and very vengeful group of people , who think they are justified acting in the same genocidal way as the terrorist group they are fighting

There will be no good end here to this .

Spot on; his aims are nothing to do with diplomacy and/or International relations.

The US President and his inner circle are using his time in office to enrich themselves and their families.

He is crassly hawking his wares to those he knows are willing to pay for influence and preference.

There was but on a tiny level. Keep the dream alive but stunts like October 7th won't help.

Imagine if those 1916 heroes went to London and systematically murdered as many Brits as possible. Wouldn't have worked out too well.

They did the bidding of their savage Iranian masters. Only Israeli military should have been killed or captured. Sure they even captured an Irish child and kept her hostage long after that was discovered. Vermin. And let's not get into the young Irish peace keeper their buddies on the other side killed.

Like I said there's a way to survive these situations and when you're completely out gunned and your biggest allies are terrorist dictatorships like Iran aggression won't be the answer.

Given the history of Jewish persecution and in particular the holocaust in WW2. To be accused of antisemitism in western countries strikes fear in people. To an extent it has been weaponised by the Israeli state and the Zionist lobby in America.

Many people simply shy away from speaking out against Israel with regards to Gaza and the plight of the Palestinians.

Oh no doubt. Terrorists fighting terrorists here. The loser as always the peaceful civilians on both sides but there's no doubt one side is suffering far more due to the huge disparity in the militaries.

I wonder if Trump Tower and resort Levant will be open in a few years , with Gaza turned into golf links . With Mediterranean beach front .

Make no mistake, Gaza will never be back in the hands of Palestinians.

That is part of Israel from here on in.

Israel is essential to US involvement in any future middle east endeavours that they may want to engage in, whether that involves conflict over oil or dominance. That's why they keep them sweet.

It hasn't always been like that between America and Israel. Have you not heard of the Jonathan Pollard spy scandal?

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I'm only 10 minutes in and already the Israeli guy has shown that he cannot answer any question he's asked with a factual response. He has to resort to lies and slander, as always.

Directly challenged and completely unable to answer a straight forward question with a straight forward reply. Typical of these bastards, they cannot respond with anything approaching honesty or integrity. They are arrogant in the extreme and will stoop to the lowest levels every time.

There's another interview by the same journalist with David Mencer and the same tactics from the interviewee are employed. He gets shifty and starts whinging about nonsense. This lot are always the same. They cannot answer anything that's put to them clearly, so they get antsy and go on the attack instead. Because they know that what they are supporting, and lying about, is abhorrent.

Of all the scandals Gary lineker weathered over the years…

It only takes one comment on Israel to end your career instantly.

Was he not retiring anyway? I think he has made comments on Israel previously, many times, and his career wasn't ended instantly because of them. He went too far by reposting a comment that compared zionists to rats. He even acknowledged himself that the comment was out of line, although he claims not to have known about the protraying jews as rats trope that the nazis loved to use. Must have been living under a rock his whole life but ok.

Seems like he caused the bbc one headache after another by not being able to keep quiet about politics, despite being a sports presenter for a publicly funded broadcaster that is not supposed to take any position on political affairs