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It's always the same. People trying to find a formula of words to say they support Hamas without actually saying they support Hamas.

No one ever supports Hamas, even when there's photos of people supporting Hamas.

The latest iteration of 'Not supporting Hamas' is unapologetically supporting a band that supports Hamas.

You and the other Israel apologists must hate this so. I think is as bad if not worse than what Kneecap have done. Missiles are famous of course for only hitting their targets, nothing else. /Sarc

https://www.theprp.com/2024/06/18/news/disturbeds-david-draiman-draws-mixed-reaction-for-signing-an-idf-artillery-shell-with-an-expletive-for-hamas/

You don't think that Hamas acts on Oct 7th were depraved?

Or that gleefully showing support for those actions the day after is equally deparved?

I was more referencing the cut off point for support really. Like, what's the limit for Kneecap supporteres to turn against them. Many have by the way. Their own twitter feed shows that clearly.

The Jews don't rule the world and despite Kneecap's assertions that they are the victims of some conspiracy to 'silence' them, the reality is that they are not the martyrs for free speech they like to present themselves as. They're in showbiz, and the tolerance for public indiscretion can be very low sometimes. It's always the money that talks.

Kneecap have actually silenced themselves for obvious legal reasons. Apart from their twitter statement they haven't said a peep regarding the situation, prefering to let their manager take the heat instead.

People don't seem to get it. Whether you consider this to be a big or little thing, once the law opens a file things move slowly to a conclusion, whether that's an indictment or not I don't know, but it's not just going to dissapear, they are in legal jeopardy.

It's also not manufactured outrage as you claim. There are a lot of people in Ireland who remember the actions of the IRA and instinctively have very little sympathy with a band who make their money surfing a wave of provo nostalgia for the glory days of 'the cause'.

Holding a flag of a country that is partly governed by Hamas is "equally depraved" as the acts committed by Hamas on October 8th?

A couple of chants from mobile phone coverage in 2023 is the same as systematic child sex abuse?

And then you claim "it's not manufactured outrage" ???

I'm finding it difficult to take you seriously.

Uncharted with Ray Goggins this Tuesday sees Kneecap take on the Arctic Tundra

You are correct in your analogy that Kneecap are not Gary Glitter.

However, there were people who knew what Gary Glitter was, who provided support and succour for him, who defended him and covered for him, Kneecap fall into that category with their support for Hamas and Hezbollah.

You can add in 'pro-genocide.'

However cynical I've become I'd never have expected to be dealing with a large number of people defending genocide, and in favour of the arms dealers helping to kill tens of thousands of children.

Hamas are a terrorist organisation, are you now defending them too?

Look, expressing support for Hamas, as Kneecap did, is unacceptable. Simple as that.

The exhortations to kill MPs is similarly unacceptable. It was notable that Kneecap apologised to relations of the MPs who were killed but did not apologise for the remarks themselves. It was a typical good republican type of apology, expressing regret but taking no responsibility for what happened or what was said.

You realise that the pro-genocide folk are the ones that equated Glitter and Kneecap? Maybe this explanation was for them?

Kneecap take no responsibility for what happened to MPs?

What responsibility do they have for any past actions towards MPs?

And today's terrorists are tomorrow's peacemakers (Arafat, Mandela & Gandhi all labelled as terrorists by the UK state, two with Nobel prizes and the third refused it). Isn't that what we want, peace and a two-state solution? We got it in Ireland so why not in Palestine & Israel? Are those so keen to denigrate Kneecap also willing to express their support for a two-state solution here? It ain't hard too state.

Now, where did I say the bit in italics? Certainly not in the post you quoted.

Like many Kneecap supporters, you seem adept in misrepresenting things that are said. It all seems designed to create multiple strawman arguments to distract from what Kneecap said.

Do you believe it is acceptable to express support for a terrorist organisation like Hamas? Do you believe it is appropriate to exhort people to kill their local MP?

The people of Northern Ireland have elected a series of idiots from the DUP and SF to rule them and have therefore brought the economic distress upon themselves. West Belfast has elected a SF MP for decades and none of them have ever done anything to improve the lot of the people living there who remain among the most deprived in the UK.

This thread is about Kneecap. There are plenty of other threads that cover Israeli sympathisers.

Read it again. I was describing the typical good republican apology which Kneecap copied with theirs.

Hamas are the elected government in Gaza. Besides, Israel does not allow Palestinians any other avenue of representation and has not allowed democratic elections there for the last 20 years. Your assertion that any support for Hamas is absolutely wrong and without justification is also, like your comparison with protecting paedophiles is absurd, wrong and offensive.