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Dealing with this wave of "validate my feelings, don't offer advice" mindset being adopted by women.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    The friend dropped her and the couple created a new Facebook group excluding us to organise the nights out. They cut us off from a regular group of like 8 people because they're the centre of it.

    So yeah, I'm happy that she lost a friend like that who at 40 is willing to totally remove us because she disagreed. What would you have her do? Change her opinions? Apologise for having opinions? Beg for friendship?

    I was friends with that couple for over a decade and they dropped me over it, too. Fuk em.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Daisy78


    House wifey things. Have we taken a spin back the 1970’s??! Yikes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    There are plenty of toxic and unhealthy 'friends' out there, just because she's female doesn't mean she should be kept on as a friend. If that friend crossed the line, then good riddance. This isn't rocket science. It's actually fairly sexist, when you drill down into it.

    Anyway………….OP, here you go:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    It's her name for doing her hobbies like baking, or crocheting etc. She isn't a native English speaker so she call it whatever she likes.

    People like you are what made her feel guilty for enjoying her hobbies at home. How is that empowering?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    For the purpose of saving the relationship? There are obviously different types and levels of advice that you would offer your partner vs your boss vs your friend, to imply that it should be a constant across all levels is frankly bonkers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Daisy78


    Not at all. No problem with any of those hobbies, just the ridiculous term you use to describe them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    You're over thinking it.

    If someone makes every conversation, or piece of advice a minefield. Stay as far away as possible.

    The other part of this is like a kid who won't listen to their parent but will listen to someone else giving exactly the same advice. This is why you get them driving lessons with someone else and avoid massive arguments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Consider that "hobbies" is a more accurate description.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    How is that more accurate?

    She literally dreams of working some hours remotely and being a housewife and having a beautiful home that she takes care of. She calls things that are part of that "housewifey things" and she loves doing them. Outside of that, hobbies are things like the rock climbing trips etc. that we go on together. When I make a big meal, or do a big clean, she calls that "househusbandy things."

    Why is that wrong? Why is it such an issue that she dreams like that and calls it that? People like you are exactly what made her feel guilty about wanting what she wants. You aren't empowering women by telling them they are wrong for wanting what they want.

    It's such a classic "No, not like that." You think she should be strong and empowered but come up with an opinion where you think she should change how she describes her life. Why do you want to control her? Because she is not choosing exactly what you want?

    Cleaning isn't a hobby. But she loves making the place clean. So why should she be forced to call cleaning a hobby just to suit people like you, instead of calling it what it feels like to her?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    It's like people who love gardening. They love the overall taking care of it and making it how they want. They don't say "My hobby is trimming branches", or "Don't you just love setting up electric fences?"

    Some people have similar mindsets about their homes. They want to take care of it. But somehow that has become "right wing" and problematic, and women shouldn't want that. They are actually betraying other women by wanting that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    It's called housekeeping, house maintenance and things like baking are hobbies that anyone can do. It's not gender specific.

    It's like calling after school activity "lads football for girls".

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Mislabeling things then trying to argue up is down it is not the way forward.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Weird post. It's obvious what was meant and I know you understood it fine. I don't appreciate you trying to dictate what my girlfriend thinks and calls things so let's just leave it there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    And yet you are attacking her and not me who wrote it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Irony.

    Post edited by Flinty997 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I didn't say anyone had to change what they do. Just that it's advantageous to do so.

    Post edited by Flinty997 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    You are attacking her for mislabelling, forcing me to write essays in her defence, and saying we deserve to be dropped from friends thanks to being unwilling to change habits. You went from having empathy to flipping to having no empathy because I dared explain what

    ["house-wifey things" (her words) like baking and knitting.]

    means to her, and why "hobbies" isn't suitable. Then you come back with nonsense like "housekeeping" and "house maintenance", neither of which actually express how she feels about this.

    Frankly, you lost the plot in here for no reason and are doing exactly what other feminists did to her: Told her she is wrong for feeling how she feels. And you are now pretending to not understand what "house-wifey things" means. Stop dictating to others how to feel and what to say.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Lanky_Lad


    We are living through a golden for mediocre women,no matter how little they achieve or how dysfunctional their lives are ,they are wonderful and worthy of their own column - podcast

    Mediocre delusional women is an industry at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Mislabelling things makes no sense.

    Post edited by Flinty997 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,405 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    I don't give free advice, I don't give anything for free. Maybe be more like me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭89897


    You cannot be so blind as to see why after posting in a tone putting down feminists and women, why using the term ¨housewifey things¨ would be seen as a red flag from you?? Regardless of if its your term or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭89897


    Theres several in your opening post alone, not to mention the title of your tread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Is "women" a bad word? Do you think I am a misogynist or something?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,156 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Genuinely confused by this one tbh.

    The OP complains about the phenomenon he’s observed of ‘women wanting their feelings validated’, gives examples of his girlfriend telling him straight out she doesn’t want his help, OP then goes on to argue with everyone here whose advice he doesn’t like…

    The OP and his girlfriend are a match made in Heaven from what I’m seeing 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Lanky_Lad


    It overwhelmingly is in terms of monetizing it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭89897


    The word women isnt bad but treating women like a hive mind is, and yes from your descripton of ´feminist shithouse reactions´ i think youre misogynist.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Who is giving me advice? All I see is people attacking my girlfriend for using a term they don't like.

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