Eurovision Song Contest 2025 - Mod warning in the OP

Yes, and TA - I don't even like Espresso Macchiatos!

Yep, I've watched it a couple of times. His dancing is so funny.

Was glad to see Baby Lasagne last night. That was my favourite last year, another earworm.

Yes and do we have any type of circuit where song writers and performers can gain experience ?

I feel we're always copying (and badly at that), one step behind what's already been seen, trying to work out what will win. The worst was when that guy from the boy band was in the too tight jumpsuit a year after the guy from Maneskin who had won worn a sexy jumpsuit. Our guy looked ridiculous and it genuinely looked like it was going to burst.

Our entry this year was ridiculous. I don't agree with whatever rule allows blowins like this to represent us. I wonder had she also done a circuit trying to find a country which she could represent.

Is this a bit like our expectations in soccer? The basic set up isn't great yet we expect results against far better teams. Similarly, how broad is music education in this country ? I'm guessing (maybe someone could let me know) that music education is far broader is most other European countries.

I actually thought there was less of the LGBT+ stuff this year. I couldn’t tell you who was gay, or non-binary (if any?) this year, nor do I care. Whereas last year, I think we were told at the postcard stage that Nemo was non-binary. Think it was also Lithuania’s act and Bambie who were open about being NB. Olly Alexander’s act was basically a gay sex locker room scene 😂

As you said the campy/ yas queen acts of Malta, Spain, Finland, Denmark didn’t land at all this year either.

It definitely felt like a different contest in that respect for me this year.

Absolute banger and easily the most memorable song this year imo

For the powers that be in Rte and the music industry, good music and musicians are very is to find and promote. But they would rather take pointers from PR companies. Listen to what a Irish music is being pumped out on peak time radio, and it's very easy to see why we never do well in this anymore. It's nearly all rancid beyond belief.

So far as Irish Eurovision entries go over the last two decades, Bambi Thug was an outlier. Wouldn't be something I'd sit down and listen to, but she has a genuine artistic quality to what she does. And it was clear that night she won the late late show contest, that this was so much better than anything we'd sent in decades. I had no doubt it would do well in the competition. What we sent this year is so bland and instantly forgettable.

I was disappointed with Olly's live performance last year. I've seen Years & Years live and know that he can sing well live, and I quite like 'Dizzy' as a song. But not only did the staging come across overly sleazy, the choreography required also affected his vocal so that it both looked and sounded poor on the night. While it was never gonna be a winner, I think he could have at least scored some televote points with a different staging concept.

So what did we all think of the presenters?

Thought they did a great job, especially Hazel. Felt sorry for her during those awkward moments in the green room, where she had to ad-lib to kill time. Can’t be easy doing such a big gig.

which one from last night had to learn English for the show ?

A poor quality competition this year. Not one outstanding song. The winning song was pretty meh imo. Thought Switzerland probably had the best from a music quality point of view but it was a very low bar this year.

yeah

I mean if you asked people to name 3 euro entries from the past 20 years I'm guessing most will think first of Jedward, Dustin and maybe the mc cauls

We hold the record but if you ask me we hold the record for the most amount of turkeys sent in the past 20 years too..😀

There must be one half decent one in there but I can't think of any, bambi the one stand out but actually think this years was better than most of the rest we sent also

wonder where all those great tunes we won with would finish now?