Eurovision Song Contest 2025 - Mod warning in the OP

Put It In H

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461392#Comment_123461392

Music is subjective of course but even within the narrow parameters of "female-sung ballad" I'd argue that Greece, Switzerland and France were all better.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461392#Comment_123461392

~14 hours later, honestly the only one I remember is Espresso, maciato, mi amore. And Icelands rap with trad fiddle.

As others have said, it was a thoroughly forgettable performance from all. So I'm not astonished that a mediocre song won.

mailburner

biggest surprise for me was

Italy and switz doing so well with the jury and Finland not doing better in the tv

I can’t take to that Italian song

France I felt was better but last years entry was better again

Netherlands was nice

if was a poor eurov overall

I thought top 2 were the best 2 but still surprised Israel came that close

Libertine07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461392#Comment_123461392

Austria, France, Switzerland, Albania, Italy, The Netherlands, Sweden, Latvia, Greece, Germany and Luxembourg to name a few.

Israel was like something off X Factor 15 years ago and the jury vote reflected that.

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461409#Comment_123461409

great tune

I can’t get it out of my head

Acosta

Some of the snippets of classic Swiss euro songs from days gone by, such as the presenter's entry, from 1991(I think), was better than any of the actual entries last night.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461386#Comment_123461386

I'd agree if the public votes didn't come out the way they did. You'd be mad not to bet on Israel getting into the top 3 next year even without knowing how good their song will be because the public votes are no longer about the song but about politics.

Acosta

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461418#Comment_123461418

That's why I won't be watching next year. What's the point, like?

Libertine07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461418#Comment_123461418

Did you read what I said?

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461364#Comment_123461364

Absolute bullshit

suvigirl

The public vote should open once all acts have performed and not before.

It's amazing the difference in tastes even in this thread, some of the songs people found amazing I found bleh and vice versa, so I suppose that's reflected in the public vote too

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123460438#Comment_123460438

I think the contest is being ruined by all this.

It's meant to be happy clappy boppy. Not political and not a route for propaganda .

Russia was kicked out because of the war . Israel should have been too.

Come back when you all stop killing children .

Sadb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123460538#Comment_123460538

Isreal apparently got 12 from both Belgium and Spain televoters, how could it have been bigger?!

Goldengirl

@suvigirl This is true about the voting that is . ( Quote didn't load )

If it is really about the songs vote after you've heard the songs .

Put It In H

I'd be curious to know how "Wasted Love" would sound without the operatic vocals. i.e. if he sang the chorus in the same range he used for the verses.

I think I might enjoy it more, because I don't generally care for operatic vocals (outside of an actual opera) but it probably wouldn't be as jury-baity so may not have fared as well.

Galwayguy35

I thought Luxemberg would have got a lot more votes, it was a good song.

Maybe Ireland should send out Jedward again next year, effeminate men seem to be popular with both the juries and the tele voters.

DayInTheBog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123460906#Comment_123460906

Just think how many more thousands Hamas would have killed on Oct 7th if they hadn't been stopped.

But I suppose thats ok. They're only Jews .

For the record , I never said what Israel is doing in Gaza is right either but I can understand why they're doing it. I also know Hamas doesn't care what happens the people whose homes they set up rocket launchers in. Or the patients in the hospitals sitting on top of their tunnels or the people whose food they take to feed their fighters.

Wars a dirty business.

As for the Eurovision. Israel shouldn't be in it, just like Australia shouldn't be in it. They're not part of Europe. It's pure nonsense.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461362#Comment_123461362

Yes, definitely not referring to the year they won which was a desperately awful song.

There's some element of my own preference in that list. I thought Spain should have won in 2022 but were 3rd behind Ukraine and UK. I don't think anyone could dispute who should have won 2023 and 2024...

Musicrules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461486#Comment_123461486

I think the winner was gay? Are Jedward gay? I think if we get a gay person from Genocide we have a great chance of winning next year.

DayInTheBog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123460958#Comment_123460958

I hope the jury voted on the quality of the song and not the politics which you seem to think they should have

As has been said , the public also thought it was a good song. Go figure!

mailburner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461414#Comment_123461414

half of those were awful imo

I don’t think the song was going to make a difference

the jury vote was always going to be terrible regardless, same as last year

Acosta

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461507#Comment_123461507

October 7th was a callossel security blunder by Israel. Hamas shouldn't even have got as far as they did, never mind get any further.

That day was horrendous. Hamas are savages. I have zero time for them.

"But I suppose thats ok. They're only Jews."

On so many levels, I can't understand this at all. Every Israeli life that has been lost is headline news the world over, while at the same time hundreds of nameless/faceless Palestinian woman and children are being murdered by the Israeli war machine on a daily basis. And others are starving to death.

NSAman

I said it last year, I’ll say it this year. Israel is using government funds, voip and voting for itself.

Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461516#Comment_123461516

Pointed out many times, a small minority can skew the voting for one particular song. When all the opposition vote is divided in 25 ways.

The Unionists on 'British Ulster' Facebook group said they were going to vote Israel even though they never heard the song. The planter vote that you seem to identify with.

You're all well able to do the maths but ignore it because you're pro the Israeli regime.

hamburgham

I really liked the a UK entry, was sorry it didn’t do better.

Thought the Estonian entry was hilarious.

Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire

Terribly coincidental Israel have done better in the last 2 years than since 1998😂

Suddenly found their song writing knack again.

reubenreuben

Straight after eurovision finished, BBC1 news headlines was about the Israel war.

If Israel had won Eurovision, which they were very very close to winning, How would it have been reported in the news?

The devil in me wanted Israel to win and see how next years Eurovision in Tel Aviv panned out.

Libertine07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461544#Comment_123461544

That's your opinion, I largely agreed with the jury vote and I can see from the reactions today that a lot of the fans did too.

Put It In H

Full breakdown of how Ireland voted here:

https://eurovision.tv/event/basel-2025/grand-final/results/ireland

Some takeaways:

Germany came unlucky 11th in the Irish televote and Estonia were unlucky 11th in the Irish jury ranking, both narrowly missing out on getting a point.

The Irish jury put Portugal last, while the Irish televote put San Marino last.

The biggest differences were Poland (1st in televote, 23rd in jury), Ukraine (4th in televote, 25th in jury) and Armenia (25th in televote, 10th in jury).

Three of the Irish jurors ranked Israel 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively.

Four of the five Irish jurors ranked Austria first (the fifth put Netherlands 1st and Austria 3rd)

Put It In H

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123461629#Comment_123461629

My main gripe with the jury was the relatively low ranking given to Albania. I was somewhat surprised with how highly they ranked Estonia but tbf as far as "novelty" entries go it was one of the better ones so I was ok with that.

Austria's margin of victory in the jury vote was a lot smaller than Nemo last year or Loreen the year before, which shows how much of an openly competitive year this was in comparison.

Switzerland's 214 jury points vs 0 televote points is gonna be analysed heavily; I wouldn't be at all surprised if it becomes the subject of a PhD thesis!