Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

According to the press conference given by Russia's lead negotiator who was also the lead negotiator at Istanbul 1.0 in 2022

1. Prisoner exchange of 1000 for 1000 has been agreed

2. Ukraine requested direct negotiations between Putin and Zelensky, Russia noted that

3. Both sides will write out and present their detailed vision of a ceasefire, after this is completed the negotiation will continue in the next phase.

Such biased shite.

You're literally just reposting the Russian negotiators notes…..

Did you deliberately decide to miss the part where Russia demanded the 4 oblasts(that they don't even control) before a ceasefire can take place?

Ukraine reportedly accuses Russia of undermining peace talks with last-minute demands

A source in the Ukrainian President's Office briefed on the talks confirmed to the Kyiv Independent that Moscow's delegation insisted that Ukraine retreat from Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson Oblasts, despite Russia not controlling any of them in their entirety.

Very tough to take you as anything other than a Kremlin shill.

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Yes, it has gone from the possibility to the actuality.

I've said it a few times why Russia will never give up 30 days and summer attacking but it should also be said Ukraine and allies have zero expectations of getting one either. They know the best time for Russia to take a break is the mud season and Ukraine shouldn't agree to it.

So why are Ukraine and allies making such a big move? Optics and a PR victory. Makes it clear to everyone Russia are stopping a ceasefire and Trump can't justify not continuing weapons to Ukraine.

I expect nothing to happen and after the summer is over and Russia needs a break the roles will reverse.

We've gone beyond the 30 day ceasefire, it just isn't going to happen for the foreseeable. A huge sticking point is the territory, I just can't see Ukraine voluntarily relinquish ground not held by the Russians, nevermind about official recognition of.

They have agreed to outline their vision of a future settlement in the next round of talks. The main points of each side are likely to be:

For the Russians: Cede the remainder of the four occupied oblasts to Russia, Ukrainian neutrality, limitations on Ukrainian military size and equipment.

For the Ukrainians: Freeze in conflict along the line of contact, Russian occupied areas not to be recognised, strive for unification through diplomatic means, Ukraine in NATO or military alignments with other western European nations, no restrictions on military size or equipment.

I'm thinking the ceding of more territory is a non-starter, but you can probably agree to neutrality and such and roll it back in a few years during peacetime like Finland. The occupied territories can be put on the long finger a bit like the reunification of east with west Germany through diplomatic and trade pressure.

Russian generals are desperate to tell Daddy Putin good news from the battlefield, this means they will push their troops headlong to gain ground, sh1t they can report back. Ukraine should exploit this desperation by falling back allowing the Russians to make ground into areas that they have 'prepared' for them...

Z jeep guy, Putin russia supporter, Russian imperialist, collaborator with dissident republicans in Ireland, soldier from Russia's invasion of Chechnya. Keep on eye out folks for this guy in Ireland.

Because it's not genuine.

Putin has gone through these motions before. In fact it makes perfect sense from his perspective. Russia engages in "peace talks", increases the maximalist demands that Ukraine (or the world) will never accept, then gets to accuse Ukraine of "not wanting peace" for rejecting them. It costs him nothing to do.

It's all an act. Like the sham referendums on occupied territory, the fake opposition in Russia, the false facade of a democracy (it's an autocracy), the fabricated propaganda and so on.

Supporters, apologists, contrarians fall for it (or pretend to) but few others do. Trump is a Putin supporter, and was already granting concessions to Russia (while punishing Ukraine) before agreements had even happened. It is possible Putin may exchange the current situation for stronger ties with the US - but even that seems flaky now.

Slightly off topic but this is worth seeing if you haven't -

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The first hit collapsed the entire wing on that block, unlikely to be any survivors in the wing. Hard to tell if the other wings collapsed with all the dust but either way there won't be too many walking out of the block.