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As expected, Russian delegation are not serious about peace
According to the press conference given by Russia's lead negotiator who was also the lead negotiator at Istanbul 1.0 in 2022
1. Prisoner exchange of 1000 for 1000 has been agreed
2. Ukraine requested direct negotiations between Putin and Zelensky, Russia noted that
3. Both sides will write out and present their detailed vision of a ceasefire, after this is completed the negotiation will continue in the next phase.
Hate to be a Russian here
Such biased shite.
You're literally just reposting the Russian negotiators notes…..
Did you deliberately decide to miss the part where Russia demanded the 4 oblasts(that they don't even control) before a ceasefire can take place?
Ukraine reportedly accuses Russia of undermining peace talks with last-minute demands
A source in the Ukrainian President's Office briefed on the talks confirmed to the Kyiv Independent that Moscow's delegation insisted that Ukraine retreat from Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson Oblasts, despite Russia not controlling any of them in their entirety.
Very tough to take you as anything other than a Kremlin shill.
Lead negotiator Umerov also confirms the 3 points in their press conference following the Russian one . At least a bit of positive news for a change moving forward.
Notice how Putin’s “meeting of leaders” is now Zelenskys idea and it was “noted” 😂
These guys are not serious, only good for fertiliser
I wonder if this is code for "the Ukranians already have them"
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Great post. It looks terrible posting 3 time's in the last year that they lost an F-16 but as long as deliveries continue this is a very sustainable rate. The pilot's surviving is the most important thing.
The first was shot down by a mix up in Ukraine's air defence and I believe the pilot died. The second I think the Russians shot down and the pilot's died. This time it was a malfunction but importantly the pilot survived. That's just off the top of my head.
I think in all the doom and gloom it's hard to forget what an uphill battle Ukraine faced during the first 2-3 years. Severely outgunned. The Russians had a lot more missiles, artillery and armour. They should have ran out a lot sooner but Iran and North Korea propped them up.
The only downside is Ukraine have lost a lot of man power by now so while the bombardments are not as bad a lot of their experienced soldiers would be dead or injured. Hopefully as you or another poster said, Ukraine starting to get an edge in terms of firepower will show on the battlefield. Putin's armour will survive year 4 but how will it fair in year 5?
Three airframe losses in a year is actually not bad at all, given that they were sent into a pretty nasty war zone. With more aircraft coming down the line, ongoing flight crew training in a safe location outside the conflict zone, and the fact that the deliveries are accompanied by a number of non-airworthy air frames as spare parts donors, Ukraine isn't really in a bad position.
I presume that's the case. I just checked the website of the Federal Government of Germany and the lists of both the delivered military supplies and the pledged supplies have disappeared from the website. Given that the Merz government has already announced that they'll be taking a stricter approach to OPSEC with regards to Ukraine, I'd say that we'll only found out if Ukraine has received Taurus if certain high-value targets start rapidly redistributing themselves over the surrounding countryside.
Meanwhile 372 planes…
That’s positive. Good to see, hopefully more progress over the coming days.
Latest sources showing there are now upwards of 10 cauldrons in these fields with at least 3 cauldrons per arrow:
Won't someone think of the witches and their missing cauldrons.
Yes, it has gone from the possibility to the actuality.
More here
I've said it a few times why Russia will never give up 30 days and summer attacking but it should also be said Ukraine and allies have zero expectations of getting one either. They know the best time for Russia to take a break is the mud season and Ukraine shouldn't agree to it.
So why are Ukraine and allies making such a big move? Optics and a PR victory. Makes it clear to everyone Russia are stopping a ceasefire and Trump can't justify not continuing weapons to Ukraine.
I expect nothing to happen and after the summer is over and Russia needs a break the roles will reverse.
Those hammer's are proving very effective. Nice to have a European supplier rather than rely on US JDAMS.
We've gone beyond the 30 day ceasefire, it just isn't going to happen for the foreseeable. A huge sticking point is the territory, I just can't see Ukraine voluntarily relinquish ground not held by the Russians, nevermind about official recognition of.
They have agreed to outline their vision of a future settlement in the next round of talks. The main points of each side are likely to be:
For the Russians: Cede the remainder of the four occupied oblasts to Russia, Ukrainian neutrality, limitations on Ukrainian military size and equipment.
For the Ukrainians: Freeze in conflict along the line of contact, Russian occupied areas not to be recognised, strive for unification through diplomatic means, Ukraine in NATO or military alignments with other western European nations, no restrictions on military size or equipment.
I'm thinking the ceding of more territory is a non-starter, but you can probably agree to neutrality and such and roll it back in a few years during peacetime like Finland. The occupied territories can be put on the long finger a bit like the reunification of east with west Germany through diplomatic and trade pressure.
The best way to get Russia into a ceasefire is to beat them on the battlefield. They've slowed them down majorly but it needs to be zero progress and even net gains by Ukraine before Russia will even consider stopping. The only other option is an economic catastrophe.
Russian generals are desperate to tell Daddy Putin good news from the battlefield, this means they will push their troops headlong to gain ground, sh1t they can report back. Ukraine should exploit this desperation by falling back allowing the Russians to make ground into areas that they have 'prepared' for them...
Them peace loving Russians struck again at civilians
trumps comment re meeting up with Putin , IMO , came ‘out of the blue ‘ - ie totally unexpected. Wonder if that was the idea agreed between the both of them - Putin , of course , suggesting it. It makes a mocary of the Istanbul called meeting by Putin. It is another part of the unwritten strategy to delay any pause in the war. Putin WILL AGREE to meet Trump. But Putin is ‘a very busy’ man and may not be able to meet Trump very soon !!!!!! . The same with Trump. And if a meeting date is agreed it can be postponed /put off for a million reasons OVERALL OBJECTIVE is to delay any cease fire for as long as possible- at least until such time that it suits Putin
Peace is Putins death sentence….
Z jeep guy, Putin russia supporter, Russian imperialist, collaborator with dissident republicans in Ireland, soldier from Russia's invasion of Chechnya. Keep on eye out folks for this guy in Ireland.
Meddle in Irish security & Foreign policy what crack pots write this stuff ?
Some unknown man at a tiny so called protest is now meddling in our nations security and foreign policy. Give me a break.
Because it's not genuine.
Putin has gone through these motions before. In fact it makes perfect sense from his perspective. Russia engages in "peace talks", increases the maximalist demands that Ukraine (or the world) will never accept, then gets to accuse Ukraine of "not wanting peace" for rejecting them. It costs him nothing to do.
It's all an act. Like the sham referendums on occupied territory, the fake opposition in Russia, the false facade of a democracy (it's an autocracy), the fabricated propaganda and so on.
Supporters, apologists, contrarians fall for it (or pretend to) but few others do. Trump is a Putin supporter, and was already granting concessions to Russia (while punishing Ukraine) before agreements had even happened. It is possible Putin may exchange the current situation for stronger ties with the US - but even that seems flaky now.
russia really lucked out with the last few US presidents. Obama and Biden favoured appeasement and didn’t have the political capital for a military engagement… Trump is corrupt and naive…..We didn’t know how good we had it with hawkish administration of Bush/Cheney.
Slightly off topic but this is worth seeing if you haven't -
VICE | Official Trailer
I absolutely loved that movie. It got some bad reviews at the time but I thought it was fantastic, need to give it another re watch.
The first hit collapsed the entire wing on that block, unlikely to be any survivors in the wing. Hard to tell if the other wings collapsed with all the dust but either way there won't be too many walking out of the block.
