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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭Rawr


    You could one-up Donnie there by saying that France won the War of 1778 (of which the US War of Independence was just a side-conflict in the grander scale of fighting the British Empire), and yet the Americans should do more to celebrate the French contibution.

    Of course that kind of reference would go over Donnies head higher than an ill-gotten Qatari jetliner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,172 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    True but don't underestimate the amount of myths most countries hold about it. The French desperate cling to the whole Resistance thing, the Brits think they won it by themselves and the less said about the Russians, the better.

    Ironically, only Germany seems to have a sensible view of the whole thing. Well, the west of Germany.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,165 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,088 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    SCOTUS is taking the constitutional birth-right case on today to try and figure out if Trump was right with his EO on limiting the constitution and denying children [of aliens] born in the US the US citizenship [born in the US] right OR if the succession of lower court rulings against Trump and his EO are correct in law [meaning that Trump exceeded the limits of authority that the constitution vested in the president].

    The SCOTUS decision may also impinge on the powers of the lower courts to rein in probable abuse or misuse of the presidents authority, particularly where it affects the rights of the average persons living or residing [alien or other] in the US according to the written words in the constitution's 1st amendment.

    A unanimous or partial SCOTUS decision on the issue may take some time to be arrived at.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,046 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    As funny as it is, the most depressing part is that it's the actual DNC who did it, in another act of performative fluff which doesn't actually do anything because they are absolutely neutered and unable to do anything of substance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    How was it disrespectful? Both France and the UK expeditionary force were beaten within 6 weeks. He is right that America does not do celebrations for victory in Europe as it could or even it's victory over Japan.

    I'm not saying it should do what the UK and France do which I have always thought is way over top and vastly overstates their contributions to victory. Without the US neither would be celebrating any victories.

    It may be undiplomatic to speak like Trump does but there is truth in what he said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭pad406


    need a time travel machine to 'advise' his parents



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,165 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The poster said he was disrespectful.

    He didn't say he lied.

    You seem to have gotten in front of your skis once again in your over-anxiousnessness to defend Trump.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I guess they have to try something, no matter how unlikely. If for no other reason that going through the legal arguments will take a while, and perhaps they're hoping to run out the clock until a new administration comes in. The argument itself fails immediately by the time you get to page 2 of the decision where it says no court may examine the President's actions, whereas the actions of a local judge are absolutely subject to examination by the court system. Even if that position is wrong and she does get 'immunity', she will get immunity from state actions and not federal actions. In any case, the grand jury has apparently decided that there is at least a case to answer.

    Good on her. Standard practice, AFAIK, was that one couldn't arrest a sought person who was attending court proceedings in a courtroom or its precincts. To do so would have intruded on the courts privileged position of judgement. One had to wait some distance away outside the court building to make the arrest proper. I believe the judge was protecting the inviolability of the court itself; separation of powers and abuse of police authority.

    (Why can I not multi-quote from two pages?)

    That may have been 'standard practice', but there is no law which covers it that I know of. Even if there were a local or state ordnance, the federal government is a separate legal jurisdiction over which state/local jurisdictions have no authority.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,172 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't think that the Nazis would have won the war if the US had remained neutral. The Nazi regime was anything but stable and would have destroyed itself even if it wasn't stupid enough to try the one thing that ends in failure 100% of the time: Barbarossa. I think it's more sensible to say that America's entry hastened the end of the conflict through the contribution of its sheer industrial capacity.

    Of course, I wouldn't expect the man who can't count the number of world wars to appreciate any sort of nuance like this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,021 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    No wonder Trump walked the election. If this book is accurate Biden was a complete mess mentally long before he stood aside.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/joe-biden-george-clooney-hollywood-fundraiser-2024-original-sin-book-rcna206640



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,000 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Jake tapper was constantly on cnn saying there was nothing wrong and it was a republican conspiracy theory that Bidens competence was in decline. Now he's written a book about how bad it was and how it was covered up? Has he owned up to his part in it?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The whole thing stinks.

    The new AF1 planes are currently due in 2027 so not that far away (despite the delays).

    The Qatar plane would need to be completely stripped down and rebuilt with huge money being spent on converting it to AF1 spec - Estimates vary from $500M to $1B in terms of cost and everyone seems to agree it would take at least 2 years to do it , if not longer.

    Bear in mind that the actual AF1 planes are not new builds , but are existing airframes being converted to meet the specs and look how long that is taking and how much it's costing…

    So Trump would likely never actually get to fly in it as President before the official ones come online.

    So , under the current plan , the US will take a plane from Qatar , spend up to a billion dollars on making it a luxury flying fortress and then without ever actually using it they will then hand it over to Donald Trump at zero cost.

    Which is handy as his current personal jet is due to for the bone-yard at this point - It's 30+ years old and was grounded for years when he couldn't afford to pay to get it fixed , magically the funds to repair it "appeared" when he announced his 2024 Campaign.

    Even if they accept the plane and do the conversion work (which is an utterly stupid plan) , what they should be doing is keeping the plane when the new ones arrive. It's the same airframe (747-8i) and could be used as a parts donor for years to come , saving the Federal Government lots of money as those planes are not manufactured anymore and in 5-10 years time , parts will be very expensive and hard to come by.

    But that would only be a good idea if the real reason for the deal wasn't to bribe Trump with an expensive shiny toy..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,142 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They have a long history of mentally or physically incapacitated Presidents.

    Odd for a country that's so obsessed with the health of their Presidents.

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,273 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    They walked the election because enough people felt that the sight of a black woman was far too much to bear ,and they much preferred a convicted felon and known liar.

    The US electorate should stop looking for excuses and at least admit that hatred and fear and the driving factors behind their vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,165 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    And yet he managed to *still* be an extraordinarily better option than the current fascist, racist, twice impeached convicted felon.

    Btw - Tapper, along with all the other grifters, selling their wares can absolutely do one.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    If the US doesn't enter the war the allies can't win with France defeated and Britain neutered. Britain was on life support from the US before the US entered the war. Without those supply lines Britain would have had to surrender.

    If the Nazis don't do Barbarossa when they did they would have won in the west and north Africa but the Russian conflict would have come inevitably because it was part and parcel of Nazi ideology to destroy communism.

    Where I think Trump and many others are wrong is the assertion we'd all have been speaking German. That doesn't fit with how things panned out because Russia eventually ran riot on the Eastern front. Stalin would hardly have stopped in Germany if the allies weren't fighting on the western front.

    I reckon it's more likely we'd all have been speaking Russian if the US had no involvement.

    All just fun speculation of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Walmart announced they just gonna pass all the tarrif costs onto customers

    I reckon it's more likely we'd all have been speaking Russian.

    Try not to sound so disappointed @Kermit.de.frog



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Excellent, and I hope they make it super clear and easy for everyone to see exactly how much it's adding to the cost.

    In reality, they won't because why waste a chance to grow their profits and blame it on tariffs.

    The supply chain is so wildly complicated no one would be able to call them on which bits are tariffs and which bits are gouging..

    But tariffs are still to blame…

    Watch Trump try to spin this as caused by Bidens "inflation" or something..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    They have a minimum age requirement of 35 for president,a maximum age requirement of 75 would be reasonable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,558 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    So much "if" in this post.

    Just to remind you, America entered WW2 after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, and only after America declared war on Japan, who were allies of Germany and Italy, did they enter into the war in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭pad406


    An independent cognitive test would be better. At least meet some basic standard. They could be published then pre-election so voters are aware.

    Trump couldn't run the country at 35, someone like Warren Buffet could still run it at 95



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    And then 80 years later, Trump has a man doing a fuckin Nazi Salute multiple times to the crowd at his own inauguration party

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭trashcan


    But apart from that, what do you think of him ? 😂 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,165 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Have you got a link that isn't on a fascist website?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Sure, Biden had slowed down but to say he "was a complete mess mentally" is simply outrageous and wrong. It does not represent any professional clinical diagnosis for a start. Biden has always suffered a bit from a stammer, and some people seem to equate this with mental unfitness.

    Older people slow down, but usually retain the wisdom that comes with age and experience. OF course there is another rather old Presidebt for whom this (wisdom) is untrue.



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