The Last of Us - HBO *Spoilers* See warning in post #1

Really excellent episode. Picking up now. Last 10 minutes in particular.

I wouldn't think the ringleaders find it all that exhausting because they don't actually believe in half the stuff they're saying. Packaging and selling hate is the easiest grift you will find on the Internet. There are even some content creators out there that started out absolutely harmless, but saw where the money was and embraced it.

In regards to the people who actually believe in it, I would agree that it must be a very sad state to be in, full of anger.

The "omg I shouldn't have brought you here, you're pregnant" part seemed really rushed and poorly acted. Thought the rest was good.

Another cracking episode.

I remember reading there was a bottle epsidode about Eugene this season. If so, only one episode to tie up "current events" seems a stretch so you'd assume a longer last episode.

And then onto Season 3 will be where they focus on Abby and then tie both of their narratives up.

That said, waiting until 2027 to finish the story will be such a bummer.

I loved the Basement scene, atmospheric and legit full of horrors.

I'm not a gamer in any sense, so I don't have any hangups about what characters look like, who's playing them etc. But it's always the same with adaptations, you have weirdos who are way too married to the source material that any differences are taken as slights on not only them, but the entire fanbase. They really should get over themselves in my opinion.

Yeah there always have to be concessions made in translating something from one medium to another, and in fairness to the showrunners they've also taken advantage of this in many ways. Something like Bill & Frank's episode last season was completely different to how it happens in the game, but they used the advantages of it being TV to do something far, far better. Or being able to see the likes of Isaac's backstory or him torturing the guy.

Likewise, part of Joel's story in the show was about how he didn't think he was able to get Ellie to the Fireflies because of how he was older, slower, hesitated more, hearing wasn't as good etc. Whereas in the game, because of gameplay he'd killed dozens if not hundreds of infected and even a good few humans (scavengers/raiders) by that point, so him being afraid like that wouldn't have made any sense.

People will complain when the show deviates from the game, without accepting that oftentimes it's both necessary and even better in some respects.

One bugbear that I only realised I have on reflection. How did Dina not know that Ellie was immune to being bitten? Surely her situation would be the talk of the town no?

And why Ellie both intentionally burned her original bite scar and then later got a tattoo over it. As she said in the previous episode, she wanted to be able to wear short sleeved tops again.

They were brought into and made part of the town because Joel was Tommy's brother. It was never made common knowledge that Ellie was immune. Tommy knows because Joel told him when explaining why he wanted Tommy to take Ellie to the Fireflies. I'm guessing Tommy's wife knows too, can't remember if that was said but it's likely he told her. Nobody else knows though.

To be fair, the Scars are excellent at stealth, have incredible accuracy with bows and the park is wildly overgrown. An automatic weapon ain't gonna do anything if you get nabbed quietly. The WLF going in and firing wildly will only get them killed. There's also LOADS of them, it's not just the small number we've seen.

Did have to laugh at how accurate it is to games that both the Wolves and Scars go after Ellie and pretty much as soon as she is out of sight they just go back to their positions, as if she had never been seen.

Yipee, thank you so much for the post Mor 316, I agree!

I'm absolutely hating this season. Now it did start really well, I loved them in the compound getting to know the characters like the shrink etc and the attack on compound was outstanding but once they killed Joel it was game over for me.

I can't cope with all the different ' ememies' they keep meeting. There is no story or substance to any of them. It's just turned into a ' game'. I'm sure that's grand for those of you who are mad about the game but I've no interest. I want an actual storyline with emotion and feeling, not this crap.

Bella and Dina are grand they really are but they can't carry it on their own, they need older more in depth characters.

I'm nearly not bothered watching the rest of it, that's how disheartened I am after last night. When she got out that guitar again, I just said to my husband feck this crap.

I know how it all pans out…But if this season is Ellie's perspective, and if it ends on the Theatre scene…It'll be disaster. There's literally so much skipped and nothing has been fleshed out. It genuinely feels like a road trip romcom at times. Ellie is forgetting that she's there for revenge over Joel. It's not Ramsey's fault. She's been given ****. This isn't Ellie. Ellie wasn't stupid and the writers are literally making the character look thick as pig ****

Also, The Scars' territory is the woods. And it's literally next door to the hospital that is the WLF territory. And they're killing a wolf right next to a WLF base and nothing is been done about it?

Nah…Pacing, dialogue and common sense is just out the window on this season for me.

I completely disagree. I think Bella Ramsey is superb in the part and the constant criticism of her is almost putting me off this thread to be honest. Both girls are very good I think. Some people who have played the game just seem to want to be dickish about it.

Yes, there was that scene (I think it was the first episode of this season) where Ellie is talking to Tommy about being immune and he tries to sush her up, so she says it out extra loudly “I’m immune”.