Irish Property Market chat II - *read mod note post #1 before posting*

The salary and the person is irrelevant when the process is dysfuntional and the new person has no powers to change anything.

It just adds increasing dysfunction

The political/lobbying influence on property for the last 3 decades has been nothing will be done unless it increases price. Increasing price makes it more difficult for the next buyer > increase land prices > increase costs, regulations,

All these measures require further taxpayer subsidies so that more and more people can afford rent/prices

It continues untill we reach maximum pain moment in a crash/recession. The wealth of a boom is squandered maximising the damage in a bust

Economic Suicide

Again the HSE is a dysfuntional taxpayer moneypit just like housing.

They tried to have an automated payroll system, one that every other organisation can get off the shelf. Hse broke the computers trying to computerise a basic function.

Automating dysfunction is not an easy process, most approach this by fixing the dysfunction and then automating. You might actually find the automation pre exists for the function you wish to automate

RTE also abandoned an IT project last week that was funded from the sale of the land in Donnybrook, another 3,500,000 wasted in what many companies use an off the shelf package

Notable that the recent public service pay agreement had safeguards written in that AI would not replace existing jobs, public service is struggling with I.T revolution nevermind the AI one

The initial ‘article’ (that word feels generous for ‘the ditch’) linked was clearly a hatchet job on some random fella cause they’re was outrage about a potential salary he might get for a job. It was gutter content for clicks.

I don’t particularly have a strong view on the rest of your comment, but what I don’t get it is:

You clearly think the current system is broken. Someone is proposing an alternative. You are saying it will just add dysfucntion. Why? Again, I don’t have a view on the proposed new role but some people are just negative as a default and are therefore unable to provide balanced/useful input.

Not happy with status quo but will attack any new ideas before they are implemented. As was said by Hometruths, it’s all gotten too political. Not only do the opposition want housing to get worse. They need it to. It’s their silver bullet.

The consensus now is that global growth is going to slow and layoffs are coming. This usually means to expect the opposite, the outcome here is that Trump walks back tariffs, oil prices fall alot further helping consumer spending, big tax cuts in US juices US economy which Ireland is heavily dependent on and AI juices tech margins even more meaning more CT income and to top it all of Fed listens to Trump and cuts rates. Global economy suprise to upside meaning house prices to infinity.

The Orange Man ironically might be the saviour for the whole farcical waste of public money and efforts by successive governments to squander precious corporate taxes on actively aiming to increase house prices perpetually. 

The Business Post article today for instance highlights a rather inconvenient truth for modern Ireland; the “boom” of the last ten years has been wasted and this corporate tax has been ill-gotten, purely based on a few accounting tricks which can very easily be done again - especially if Trump offers incentives / punishments for these US corporates to declare / move more profits back onshore to the US. Then it will be a case of the government’s absolutely, unfathomably astronomical public spending increase no longer being sustainable and all the property market money trees they have planted start to rot and die. Then people will blame Trump and anything else except the politicians that concocted Help-the-Brickie, HAP and any other scheme which funnels public money in to the private housing sector, with limited impact on getting new homes built but a mega impact on inflating house prices and rents.

Bring on the Orange Man’s “America First” policies in order to bring down the curtain on the criminal mismanagement of the housing sector by FF/FG. 

100%. You just know that when the government is appointing a “housing czar”, that we are near the top of the market. Also an article every day now in the papers about how 1 in 3 Irish people now millionaires, Irish people bidding for property in (insert country here) etc. 2005 all over.

The opposite - they will introduce some black and white measures to onshore those US profits/intellectual property, which will result in a short, sharp shock to the Irish corporate tax hit and all of a sudden the government is scrambling to find the funds for its housing market magic money trees, with big cutbacks needing to be made on luxury areas such as help-to-buy.

Its the same reason the government now spends a fortune every year on outside consultancy (Accenture etc) in lots of areas that historically were always handled in-house - it allows them, and senior civil servants, to avoid responsibility for decision making.

Which in theory makes its harder to be found at fault for anything that goes wrong, or to land on the wrong side of the opinions of the electorate if they change.

If/when any decisions made by the Housing Tsar are unpopular, the oppostion and the media will go after the Minsiter for Housing. So the Government will be accountable in any scenario, regardless of what the Tsar does or doesnt do. It will fall back to the Minister to answer in the Dail and to the media.

It smacks of 'let's look like we're doing something'.

The truth is that there's no political will to solve it. Whatever the Tsar will be asked to do, is nothing the Minister can't do. They just don't want to because any and all decisions are politically unpopular around housing.

Look at the objections made by Government and Opposition parties at a local level to any kind of development.

The electorate were sold a lie pre election of 40k completions, a lie little questioned by the media

The Hse was an attempt to de politicise the health service. Spending has sky rocketed with no matching progress in outcomes

The original article posted focused on the person in question using Airbnb to rent out a residential property in excess of 10k per week in a rpz. Surely not the person you would turn to to sort out supply and price/rental affordability hence my quote of putting the fox in charge of the hen house. Posters are getting blinded by bias and politics

The salary is a bargain if he can sort it out, scratch the surface and its more of the same

A housing tsar appointed by the government, who serves at the government's pleasure, will not make any decisions that would be unpopular with the government. Or that go against the current government's overriding goal for housing - prices always go up, and vast amounts of public money are to be used to support the market.

All a very government aligned housing tsar will be is someone to achieve nothing for a year, then be blamed by the government and replaced as a distraction.

If they had announced an appointment of a very well qualified external candidate (ideally recruited from abroad), with no government connections/loyalties, and real, set out, powers then things would be different.

We had a Doge which was free (IMF) , implemented good policies, but once FFG got back total power everything was reversed and leveraged

That clown in Foreign affairs was tweeting about the women's gaa skort controversy earlier in the week advocating his total support for the players. That can be easily resolved by the players withdrawing there time and effort. There is no sport without players

School level politics, actually, you'd get more maturity and common sense in a school