Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

The complete and utter lack of self-awareness in this post is probably beyond you.

Says the ' Neutral '.

One thing I notice about Political Analyst is he is quick to condemn Hamas for using civilian as shields to excuse the IDF's conduct, but runs away when confronted by evidence of the IDF using human shields. With this in mind special forces units within the IDF have dressed up in medical uniforms and used ambulances to carry out operations over the years. The IDF have also frog marched Palestinians civilians at gunpoint to be used as shields as they move about. You won't hear a peep from Political Analyst about any of this, though.

The only conclusion is political analyst must not really be against the use of human shields in all circumstances as a principle, rather it depends on which side is using them.

You'll find no issues on this thread with Israel's right to defend and protect its citizens from attack.

But this campaign has far exceeded any kind of proportional response. After 18 months of waging their Genocide and War Crimes, Israel has still not rescued all the hostages (nor ever wanted to) nor apparently defeated Hamas. In fact, the IDF even murdered at least 3 hostages

So that begs the question of why they continue and are now ramping up the starvation tactics putting more than two million innocents at risk?

The answer is simple - Israel wants Gaza. It will be cleansed of Palestinians and they will take it. Smotrich, Ben-Gvir, War Criminal Netanyahu and others in the Govt. Have made it very clear that this is their "final solution"

Israel wants to eliminate Palestinians. That's it. If you want to justify that as Israel pre-empting the elimination of Jews, work away.

Oh, and to address another of your points, you should be aware that the IDF murdered many Israelis fleeing for their lives or cowering in fear in the kibbutz on Oct 7th. And also, not all those killed were Jews - not all Israelis are Jewish. This has nothing to do with Jews or being Jewish.

Hamas, the terrorists who killed 1200 at the music festival and kidnapped 250 and raped others, and burnt them alive, could not have put it better themselves. Hamas want all Jews gone from Israel, as well as gays etc. Israel on the other hand has many muslin living in Israel. There would be no Jews living in Gaza except those kidnapped. There is more democracy, and rights for minorities, in Israel than in any of the surrounding Muslim countries.

No surprise many Palestinians want to get rid of Hamas now, but Hamas does to them what extremist Republicans did to those it disagreed with.

Israel withdrew from Gaza two decades ago, Hamas seized control not long after and shot thousands of missiles in to Israel etc, diverted aid for Gaza in to building tunnels to attack Israel etc. Hamas will not allow elections since, and invaded Israel on Oct 7th.

Israel wanted a peaceful Gaza. Instead all Hamas wanted and still wants is the death of all Jews.

very little of hamas is being targeted, mostly civilians are being targeted as israel deliberately target civilians.
it is a breach of international law to deliberately target civilians under any circumstances and for any reason.
the current conflict is only a part of the long term conflict which is about israel wanting to eradicate the palestinian population and steal their land, then moving on to lebanon syria jordan and egypt.
israel is the aggresser, israel is the genocidal racist apartheid state, israel is just as similar to isis if not more then hamas.
we have been over these discredited claims you have been posting already and the evidence shows they have no basis.

A far , far higher % of Hamas has been killed than the % of the Gaza population killed, so you are totally wrong there.

I asked about the occupied territories. Do residents of the occupied territories get a vote in the knesset?

Good man. You just proved the fact that Israel treats every living person in Gaza as Hamas and guilty. It's exactly like that as Gvir has said so many times. ' There are no innocents in Gaza '.

Look at this utterly cowardly murder strike by Israel. These are daily occurences. Dropping bombs on starving refugees - does it get any more dishonourable or yellow? If I was Israeli, I would be utterly and completely ashamed. Women and children murdered for zero reason.

Sixteen killed in Israeli attacks in Gaza - civil defence

Sixteen people, including at least three children, have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza.

They included two boys aged five and two, in an apartment in Al-Mawasi.

The civil defence later said 10 more people were killed in a strike on a tent also in Al-Mawasi, among them a child and seven women.

At least 2,436 people have been killed in Israeli attacks since Israel resumed its campaign in Gaza

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Sick and twisted cowards. What possible military target can a refugee tent be?? There is no military threat anymore. IDF could easily drive in and take over this tent without a shot fired. The spineless freaks don't even bother offering excuses anymore. They just like terrorism and war crimes. Sick depraved cowards.

"The IDF could easily drive in and take over the tent". My God, you haven't a clue. You never heard of Muslim suicide bombs, IUDs, all sorts of traps etc.

I never said Israel was squeaky clean. They are surrounded by many millions of people who want to completely eradicate them. They are a tiny country geographically and fighting for their very survival. WW2 taught them not to be timid.

Well said.

It's impossible to see any way anyone could think of of this as right or justified. It should be utterly condemned by anyone with a moral conscience.

That they even lay on bus tours to go watch the Genocide in real time and lay on food and discos is simply unfathomable. Sick and depraved for sure. Shades of the 1940s which is of course utterly ironic.

Hmmm - what will be your response when Israel do actually kill over a million people in Gaza?

They're about 20% into that particular goal - and the numbers will ramp up very quickly within weeks as starvation and disease set in irreversibly.

Keep up the cheerleading though if it soothes your soul.