Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans lifted - see OP**

Well, indeed. And how many of those was she likely to meet at her own gate?

My own “theory” if you wish to call it that- is that yes, the killer was local - most likely one of the people mentioned though the years on this forum and others, and long since deceased - and not Bailey.

There were two individuals in particular who were around the area the night she disappeared and were just plain odd for a variety of reasons - one if not both, I cannot recall, went on to commit suicide - but they should have been investigated a lot more at the time .

“ The killer is dead after being let off the hook by the DPP.”

And not only once but twice- if it weren’t for that pesky DPP looking for something as basic as evidence. How dare they ruin a good murder trial which had it gone ahead, would have found Bailey not guilty. The rotters!

Story below concerning the recent murder of a woman in France, possibly by a woman.

Interesting how they describe the “viciousness” of the murder -and incredible how quickly the attack took place - it was over within minutes

“Prosecutors now say they have detained a woman 'who comes from Trémolat and is part of the couple's circle' in connection with the case.

'I don't know the details, but I understand the attack was vicious and deliberate, and not like it was by an interrupted intruder,' Mr Carter said, after prosecutors said they were investigating the possibility Ms Carter was killed during a robbery.”

'It is likely to have been someone Karen knew and had an issue with her. But she was a kind and friendly person and got on with people.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14671407/Husband-Brit-mother-knifed-death-wine-tasting-France-denies-having-affair-fears-frenzied-stabbing-carried-knew-woman-arrested.html

And this is still just an assumption - which is NOT borne out by the evidence - (not that there's much evidence anyway)

You're listening to an experienced senior investigator, in what is effectively a moot point. It is evident that the attending gardai at the scene didn't have much of a clue about what they were doing and didn't deduce anything as it was the first time they came across a murder scene. Later investigators had to deal with closing the door after the horse had already bolted.

There was evidence at the scene, lots of blood, murder weapons, tire tracks, boot prints, fingerprints and marks, perhaps there was more evidence that was dismissed or discarded, and additional basic evidence that wasn't even looked at including checking for signs of life, checking for temperature, which would have locked in a time of attack/death. Further time sensitive evidence inside the house including checking if there was heat on any hobs or appliances, see if the bread surface had hardened, if boiler was set running or if there were candles burning etc. If the initial investigators had been competent they likely would have solved this case, and in addition I think they would have had sufficient evidence to secure a conviction, whomever it was against.

I would have looked closer at Alfie and Shirley, Josie and Finbarr Hellens, Leo Bolger as well somebody in Sophie's husband's circles in France. Chances are always higher for those Sophie was in conctact with in whatever shape or form regarding her stay in Ireland. And if it was one if their own, say the guard from Bantry, he would have been difficult to investigate back then. The German musician or this French fisherman would have been the "odd man" in this case.

It's possible that the Ungerers knew something, some small detail, they may not have remembered, but would have been an indication into the direction of things, even though I believe the Ungerers had no involvement in the case.

Regarding Bailey it was only his stupid personality which gotten him onto the radar screen. He should simply have shut up, stayed quiet, not even written about the murder.

But they knew from observations that Bailey went up there in the middle of the night and knocked on her door, chased her down to the gate and murdered her.😑🙃

I know all that , I've added sarcasm emogis for you now.

The doctor told Michael Sheridan that rigor mortis was evident. You`re just making assumptions based on poor awareness of facts.

The first doctor on the scene, about 11am, never touched the body, so how would he know rigor had set in?

Dr Harbison didn't see the body until 24 hours later. Poor awareness of facts indeed.

Dr Harbison, the then state pathologist, viewed the body at the scene at about 2 o'clock the day after the body was found - after the remains had lain at the scene for about 28 hours; and we do not know how long the body had been at the scene before she was found. That "unknown" period may have been as long as 8 hours, or as short as 2 hours.

The fact that the PM did not take place until after a whole long cold night had passed makes the degree of rigor and the estimating of time-of-death proportionately more difficult. Especially, considering the facts mentioned above - that investigation of the scene of crime, the nearby house etc were also delayed - the opportunity for gathering valuable data was missed, beyond recovery.

BUT - knowing the time of death is very crucial in ruling out, or in, the alibis of suspects.

And we don't know the time of death to any degree of accuracy. One of the many reasons why the case remains unsolved.

Who detected rigor mortis at 11 a.m. - only an hour after the body was discovered? Source?

I'm not being sarcastic - real question.

"At 11.00 AM Dr L O`Connor from Schull arrived on the scene, examined the body and pronounced the victim dead. He also made detailed written notes about the scene and the injuries he observed. He noted that rigor mortis had set in."

From Sheridan`s book "Death In December"

That is extremely interesting - thank you.

This is from Sheridan - I wonder if he interviewed that doctor. Very helpful if so. The first experienced professional to examine the body of a murder victim.

I'd love to read a detailed report of such an interview!