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Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    I'd forgotten that chapter of the contrarian Councillor's history.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,444 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Yes, but it's hardly relevant. AFAIK he was fifteen at the time - over 50 years ago - and had been through sexual and physical abuse a couple of years earlier in an institution. Whatever you think of him now, bringing up a conviction from when he was a troubled juvenile is pointless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,831 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I was under the impression that the institution came after the arson rather than before

    For many many reasons, I don't consider him a fit individual to be a Councillor or a member of Aosdana, but unfortunately, he is both. Who keeps voting for him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,665 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Hopefully the Trinity to Merrion Gates can also progress now too, which seemed to be held up by this.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,444 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    my understanding (partly based on wikipedia) was he was sent to letterfrack aged 11, and he got 5 years in mountjoy when he was 15, and i presume that was for the arson, but there are no clear details.

    i'm not a fan of his; my wife has had dealings with him on a professional level and did not enjoy the experience.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,912 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    His relentlessness is quite Trumpian, as is his appetite for notice, and his ability to get the media to repeat his misrepresentations unfiltered.

    https://irishcycle.com/2025/04/11/is-cllr-mannix-flynn-really-that-confused-about-dublins-traffic-changes-or-is-his-role-as-a-councillor-really-his-greatest-performance/



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It is interesting to read some of the social media discussion

    Irish Times on FB:

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    The Journal:

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    As for the Journal's comments section…

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    Sigh!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,912 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Shades of "Why don't they just route the cyclists through the graveyard? It's very simple." And then it's not so simple, because all this stuff has been looked at already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    I'd have thought the obvious solution for extra space along there before talking about the shoreline or the green spaces would be to remove the car parks along the strand, as well as banning on-street parking for the length of the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,912 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    "3% of commuting is done by bike" is also misleading, as that's not the modal share for the part of the country the bike lane is in.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    But their point was that very few people cycle so the road space should not be reallocated whereas this trial measure would help encourage more people to cycle justifying the reallocation of road space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,912 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Yeah, but the 3% figure is the national figure. It's irrelevant for a place where the modal share is afaik above 10%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,290 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    I regular cycle on the road there. , for a large part I don’t understand why they can’t incorporate the unused footpath into a cycle lane.
    the parallel footpath close to the rocks is the one most people use.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Alias G


    What difference would this make? Critically, there isn't space for a segregated cycle lane at the southern end of Strand road without reallocating current road space. The only alternatives are a flyover from Merrion road or a one way system. Both of which have been opposed by local nimbys. I don't see cpo of front gardens for the approx 250 metres approaching the level crossing as realistic for the purposes of a cycle track. Also important to remember that while the NTA have shelved plans to close the Merrion gates altogether, long term, this is a subject that will need to be revisited in due time with a solution allowing for increased dart frequencies and redirection of motorised traffic away from the coast.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Also the use the shoreline misses the humongous point that it is a protected biosphere. It's like no one reads anything before passing comment.

    As for closing Merrion gates, great idea, not only increasing Dart times but also improving Merrion road efficiency.

    All research indicates that it would decrease traffic significantly in the area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,612 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    reducing Dart times 🙂

    I was on a Dart the other day that was held just before the gates waiting for them to close - I thought that wasn't supposed to happen anymore and the Dart should have complete priority.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Apparently FG's Cllr David Coffey is now looking to delay or stop the trial via an emergency motion by linking it to the Sandymount Flood Relief scheme and making it off-road…

    https://irishcycle.com/2025/04/14/fine-gael-councillor-looks-to-block-strand-road-cycle-path-trial-after-council-wins-legal-case/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Jesus. Another NIMBY steps forward into the breech.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,435 ✭✭✭markpb


    He’s either making noise to get his name known or he’s incompetent. Councilors don’t get to make those kind of decisions, only council staff do. I assume it’ll either fall at committee or pass and be ignored by staff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,779 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    He’s either making noise to get his name known or he’s incompetent.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,331 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭breadevery


    Hi all, you may have seen this recent article about changes that are now being implemented to the previously approved BusConnects infrastructure in Ballyfermot.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2025/0424/1509153-bus-connects/

    The new layout replaces the Bord Pleanala approved layout which went through 3 rounds of consultations, and an appeals period in which no appeals were lodged. The new layout is a mess, (see images in the article) particularly for cyclists and pedestrians. It is being implemented mainly due to recent protests from local shopkeepers who don't want to lose parking spaces in front of their shops, and who don't want the main street to become one way.

    There has been a petition created for those who would like to see the original plans reinstated, just to show that there is support for proper cycling and walking infrastructure in the area too.

    Link to petition is below, @mods please let me know if sharing the link is not allowed and I can send the link by PM to anyone who wishes to sign instead

    https://chng.it/Z5R4gh788j



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭Ben D Bus


    I missed the news of that redesign.

    I live on the town side of Ballyfermot. The main reason I never go to into the centre of Ballyfermot is that bloody roundabout! It's brutal as a pedestrian and I've never dared try it on the bike! There is exactly 0 pedestrian priority unless you walk up Kylemore Road to a pedestrian crossing. The roundabout needs to be obliterated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    That roundabout is a relic of old planning and poor design, and needs to be replaced decades ago, along with the crazy Walkinstown roundabout … it's just mind boggling the nature of the objections to retaining dangerous and outdated road designs. I dare say a lot of the customers of those local shops are all within walking distance too.

    Never heard such rubbish about a old roundabout: "The Ballyfermot roundabout, if you ask anybody where they're going in Ballyfermot, everyone says the roundabout."It's part of our heritage and it's part of our culture. And if that goes, the heart of Ballyfermot goes."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Just a question about the changes to Ranelagh Village which I occasionally cycle through. The road going north into the Triangle used to have a left turning lane, and a continuing straight lane. If I was going straight, I'd move my bike into the right lane. Everyone knows my intentions. Then I can move into the cycle lane when I get across the junction.

    Now it's got a single lane for cars going forward and turning, and a cycle lane to the left of it. Meaning cyclists going straight are to the inside edge of cars turning left into them. The lights have a green left arrow which indicates to motorists, that it's free for them to turn. And it leaves cyclists very vulnerable if they don't properly check their mirrors for cyclists.

    To me, that seems to have made the junction far more dangerous for cyclists. What's the logic behind designing a road this way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,612 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    sounds like it should have a flashing amber for left turning traffic as they've done elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,017 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    On what basis can they substantially change a design that has planning permission?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,665 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Bus connects, metro, luas, active travel everything held up by bloody nimby's.

    "public transport is a joke in this country, that's why I have to use my car, they should do something". But also "I didn't mean that"!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    All I can see in the news is Legal actions being launched against QBC's, cycle lanes.. in Bray, Deansgrange, Sandymount.. and now they're digging up the "controversial" fairview cycle lane to put it closer to the road… So it's no wonder the city is choked up with vehicular traffic, it's about time people stopped objecting to ways to lessen the traffic if they're not willing to allow improvements..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    "everybody else should give up driving so that there'd be less traffic on the road for me and my car" is also a prevalent mindset



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