Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Trump: “He had MS-13 on his knuckles tattooed.”

Moran: “That was photoshopped.”

Trump: “Terry, you can’t do that. Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime. I picked you. But you're not being very nice.”

Such a pathetic, petty, whiney little...

There are two options here.

1) he thinks they actually are tattoos, in which case he's an idiot

2) he knows they aren't and is just insisting they are, in which case he's a f**king shameless liar

But that’s fake news apparently… 🙄

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-demands-investigations-negative-approval-rating-polls-2064949

. . . beating the previous record, which was set by Trump in his first term.

Why not both?

In this new way of doing politics, I’m not sure Trump or MAGA actually care- they disregard the press that criticise them - they disregard the courts who penalise them - so why should they care what the public think of them?

The midterm elections will be interesting - will the sheep still vote in the numbers they’ve done previously or will they switch horses? My money is on they’ll stick with MAGA- they’re brainwashed at this stage

Ironic, to put it no higher, that Trump supporters would post this on YouTube in order to complain about "Liberals" sharing it on social media. Have they no self-awareness?

looks like yer man, "oddjob" from goldfinger…

A former PM of Canada jokingly said that they could join, but with an expectation that each of the 13 provinces/territories of Canada would need to be made into an individual state.

And that those states would likely lean very heavily towards the Democrats style of governing, as Canadians would not be happy to give up free medical, social support, etc...

So it would swing the house/senate/presidency massively in favour of the democrats

That's what I was thinking too (as a funny hypothetical rather than something which should or would actually happen). Trump keeps saying Canada should be the 51st state. The f*cking size of Canada… It's a little bit bigger than the entire USA. Fair enough, only has about 10% of the population, but then still has 1000% the population of some of the red states.

Someone should put it to Trump that would he accept Canada joining if they were 13 new states rather than just one, and get 2 senators per state, reasonable electoral college votes and House seats. See what the art of the deal looks like then.

If I were attribute any meaning or intelligence to what Donnie has been saying about Canada (and we'll come back to that issue in a second) I'd suggest that the intention was to make Canada into a single US State with just 2 senetors and the Electoral votes of one of the larger states (Canada has just a couple million more people than California). It would torpedo the GOP's chances in The House (assuming that Canadian liberal parties would caucus with the Dems), but not hurt the GOP too much in The Senate. It would however make GOP presidential runs harder with another large deep blue state in the running.

But that all depends on this being anything more than Donnie bleating out sound-bytes in order to sound "strong" or "presidential". As I tend to repeat, Donnie does not have a plan. Any plan. He does not have policies either. The whole Canada thing is likely little more than a political crutch to lean on when his other schemes blow up in his face.

• Tariffs gone badly? Let's talk about Ukraine then!
• Ukraine Peace deal going nowhere? Let's talk about Immigration!
• Immigration is turning into a highly unpopular nightmare? Let's talk about Elon and DOGE!
• Oh…Elon and DOGE are pointless & everyone hates them? How about we talk about Canada being the 51st State?
• Talking about Canada being the 51st State has handed the Liberals a win and has triggered a grass roots boycott of US goods. Erm….have we talked about Tariffs?

The British burned the White House.

similar to Brexit in the UK. It’s difficult to argue passionately for moderate policy.

No I completely get that. My point is that Trump is claiming his reasons for wanting Canada to become their 51st state are that the US can't continue financially supporting Canada through their trade, there's no need for a border between their countries, and it'd be a benefit to both countries if Canada became part of the US. So it should be put to Trump that if there are all these benefits, would he accept Canada joining if they joined as 13 new states rather than one. Then the facade of what a benefit it would be to both countries would be dropped, because the only difference between Canada joining as one state versus joining as 13 states would be the fact it would be politically disasterous for the GOP in terms of vote share.

I mean, it's an idea that shouldn't be entertained to begin with for a vast multitude of very simple reasons, but I'd just like to see Trump trying to defend his plan while showing he'd put the GOP over these supposed great benefits to both countries. It would definitively highlight that Trump's wants regarding Canada would be for exactly what you say; stripping Canada down to the bone and forcing all the healthcare, insurance, control of education, deregularisation etc onto Canadians and Canadian businesses rather than making them a true part of the USA.

The Director of the Economic Council doesn't understand tariffs. Or lying more likely.