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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭Jizique


    If a judge is suspected of breaking the law, they should be arrested. Similar to a politician or a businessman.

    Remember when that Kerry judge was found with child porn on a computer, should get have been arrested? He got off on some technicality but all was well in the end, and the same may happen here.

    Post edited by Jizique on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,848 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The government in the country concerned has decided that it will allow the child be returned to the US and presumably the father, leaving the US end resolving up to Trump's ICE people and lawyers. I'm a bit confused now by your mention of ICE refusing to honour the request.

    The mother and daughter deportation, according to ICE in the first place, was done by ICE with them as a pair at her request.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,435 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You remember it?

    Then you should know its not remotely the same situation.

    This is an attack by a fascist administration on the independence of the judiciary resisting their diktats.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭pad406


    I'm a bit confused now by your mention of ICE refusing to honour the request.

    It was a direct quote from the article, apparently the father had been attempting to temporarily transfer custody to a family member who is a US citizen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,848 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Kind of confusing now with Rubio telling the news media that if Trump/the US, put's more sanctions on Russia now, it will make the war last two [2] years longer.

    Terrible, using that logic, that all the sanctions put on Russia to date because it invaded Ukraine [in continuation of the war it started in Ukraine in 2014] have ended with continuation, and not cessation of the Russian war efforts in Ukraine.

    So wrong of the world's nations to have caused the continuation of the war.

    BTW, I'm being a tad sarcastic in those last few lines.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,848 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    OK, that makes sense. The Mother was not in agreement with the father with his request, or his plan to ensure the child could stay in the US while she herself was deported to the other country, as that would leave him with closer access to their daughter.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    In fairness there is a possible US mediated peace deal between Congo and Rwanda (funding M23) so may be some news on May 2nd. The peace talks are in Qatar.

    The area is full of the minerals the US wants to get it's hands on. No doubt others will be watching closely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭pad406


    Seems to be a lot of Peace for 'making the US money' type deals now. Thankfully it was more Peace for Peace's sake when the GFA was being done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,848 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Where it come to Crimea, what [apart from possible extension of Russia's toehold on the Black Sea - and bases close to other former USSR countries] does Crimea have value-wise?

    Does Crimea have, percentage-wise, enough of Ukraine's rare earth and critical minerals to make it worthwhile for Russia to insist that it hold unto Crimea as part of any peace-deal Trump insists Ukraine accede to to end the war [as presently pursued by Putin]?

    Not heading down the conspiracy rabbit-hole quite yet, I keep in mind how much of a row there has been between Biden and himself, not mentioning all the Ukrainians in several of that country's administrations and US ambassadors, over the past 10 years now where commercial interest-plans there are concerned. Letting go of the personal grudge match between Biden and Trump, what is in it for Trump at this stage. He has to know peace, not war, there is now an even longer term proposition for all those involved in any ceasefire there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,238 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    If Biden had fallen asleep at a Pope's funeral, there'd be wall to wall media coverage and the usual suspects here would be falling over themselves in their rush to post how unfit he was. Yet the felon does it and it's crickets. The hypocrisy is to be expected at this stage, it's about all they're good at.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Crimea is or was largely agricultural but the water supply has been fucked since the Russians blew the khakhovka dam. 100's of thousands of acres of agricultural land is slowly turning back into desert like it was pre 20th century.

    The reason the Russians want Crimea is to do with security. The south western flank of Russia is exposed to invasion. A flat plain extends from the Russian border all the way to Romania with few natural obstacles in between. Without Crimea, Russia would be extremely vulnerable to an attack as happened in WW2. Stalin strengthened this weak spot post WW2 when he broke off a part of Romania by creating Moldova. He then planted thousands of Russians there. These Russians split from Moldova in early 90s to created the Mafia state of Transnistria. He did the same in eastern Ukraine and some of these planted Russians were involved in kicking off the war in 2014.

    After Stalin's death the Soviets gave Crimea to Ukraine as compensation for the millions of Ukrainians who starved to death during Stalin's disastrous 1930s agricultural collectivisation programme. However they kept the military bases. That obviously wasn't enough for Putin who feared Ukraine could one day join NATO with the hosts then going on to boot the Russians out of the bases. The rest is history...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭Jizique




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,469 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    The judge you mentin was arrested. Clearly, you don't remember it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    On what Crimea has. Crimea in 2014-22 allowed Russia to turn Ukrainian trade through the Sea of Azov through Mariupol (especially steel - Azovstal was the worlds largest steel plant) on and off for political pressure.

    That was likely a factor in why Russia built the Crimea bridge to Kerch.

    Keeping it would allow them to do the same with Odessa including agriculture. 97% of Ukraine's grain exports use Odessa.

    I'm surprised that the border with Crimea was so weakly defended. Some officials in the South seem to have betrayed orders to blow bridges. Promises of collaboration in Kyiv seem to have failed though, with people taking the Russian money and not helping them. Thats one of the reasons the siege of Kyiv failed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    More culture war bullsh1t.

    Where are the 90 deals in 90 days he promised?

    Why isn't the Ukraine war resolved on day one?

    Why are the tarrifs causing the market to tank?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭bog master


    "A mass lynching of Italian Americans in New Orleans in 1891 prompted U.S. President Benjamin Harrison to make the 400th anniversary of Columbus's arrival a national holiday in 1892, though he intended it to be a one-time celebration. In 1937 U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt proclaimed the day an annual holiday."

    "Congress declared Columbus Day a federal holiday in 1937 and a legal public holiday in 1968. Hawaii, Alaska and South Dakota do not recognize Columbus Day as a holiday. Columbus Day is not celebrated in 22 states. "

    Might be nice to ask the ICE Barbie Noem why South Dakota does not recognize it.

    "By the 500th anniversary of Columbus's exploration, the tide had turned against the explorer. Today, Columbus is regarded as the instigator in the series of events that led to genocide, dispossession and disease for Native Americans and African slavery in America"

    .

    https://www.wuft.org/national-news/2012-10-08/twelve-little-known-facts-about-columbus-day-and-its-namesake



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,469 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Columbus day in the US largely functions as a day for celebrating Italian-American heritage, in the way that St. Patrick's Day does for Irish-Americans and Cinco de Mayo does for Mexican-Americans. Whether it's celebrated, and the enthusiasm with which it's celebrated, from state to state, or from town to town, is largely a function of how strong Italian-American identity is in that place.

    Its a federal holiday, but that just means that federal government offices and agencies mark it. The federal government has no authority to tell state agencies or private businesses whether to close or not, or to grant their workers a holiday. It's not clear what action Trump intends to take; it's already a federal holiday, and he can't make it any more of a federal holiday than it already is.

    It's also not clear whether Italian-Americans will be uniformly thrilled at Trump's attempt to hijack what they regard as their particular holiday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,048 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Trump doesn't intend taking any action. It's more meaningless drivel to deflect from the mess he is creating.

    What always staggers me is that Trump is always taken as telling any form of truth, yet consistently lies.

    Even in the Time interview he admitted that he was lying about solving Ukraine war on Day 1. And yet the interviewer never asked how anyone can take anything he says seriously since he clearly lies so often.

    Why should anyone believe he can MAGA? Is that just another exaggeration? Another lie?

    So instead of asking what Trump will do, the first question is whether this is yet another lie?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,913 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    A few states have cancelled Columbus Day. Apparently he never set foot in the place only made it to the Carribbean where they wiped out half the population with disease and established a slave trade.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,805 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Crimea sounds like it's going to be Northern Ireland for Ukraine's treaty negotiations. And honestly that looks the most likely outcome. You'll have Ukranians split in the same way we were post Treaty with the opinions being all-or-nothing v best we could have gotten at the time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,469 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I think, in fact, the question MAGA supporters ask themselves is "Is this a lie that I like?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,933 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Trump must have been watching the Sopranos over the weekend, and now thinks he's Silvio Dante



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭Field east


    ”however they -Russia- kept the military bases” . Is that correct? My understanding is that the whole of Crimea was handed over and that Ukr allowed the use of some bases to the Russians under some long term agreement which is up about now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭Economics101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Crimea was part of the Ukrainian SSR since Krushchev handed it over in 1954, having previously been part of the Russian SSR.

    Russia conquered it in 1783 under Catherine the Great, in violation of a 1778 peace treaty with the Ottoman Empire.

    However after World War 1, it also broke away but was reconquered by the Soviet Union and became part of the Russian SSR. It was originally the homeland of the Crimean Tatars and the heartland of the Khanate of Crimea. Stalin deported the Tatars. They only started returning I think after the breakup of the USSR. The return of Russia has led to a return of persecution.

    I've looked at the Census of Tsarist Russia in 1897. Crimea was part of Taurida Governate which included Crimea and Kherson. Ukrainian was the main language at the time. Russification was much more intense under the USSR since Stalin abolished Lenin's policy (known as Korenization) of promoting minority languages in the USSR to gain the minorities' support. Stalin became more concerned with getting ethnic Russian support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.newsweek.com/green-card-holder-us-over-30-years-detained-cbp-after-tripfamily-2063647

    Irish woman now detained. 30 years on a green card but 20 year old expunged drug charges are what she's being targeted on. She's not exactly a hardened criminal but sure this is the new norm in the US...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭poop emoji


    can we stop with the rare earths minerals nonsense and conspiracy theories

    Only half a billion a year worth of “rare earths” (they ain’t rare”) are imported into US per year

    Trump already cost us economy 7 trillion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    There is a reason why it is extremely dangerous to go around arresting judges. Judges are not 'above the law' but there is a requirement for the judiciary to be protected from interference from the police because they often come into conflict with law enforcement and need to be independent.

    If a Judge commits a criminal act that is completely independent from their role as a judge, then they should of course, be held accountable the same as anyone else, but when you have a political appointment of the head of the FBI directing their staff to arrest a judge because a different, highly politicised law enforcement function accused her of 'obstructing' them without even getting a 2nd judge to issue the warrant, this is undoubtedly an attack on the legal system at large.

    Judges, in their normal performance of their duties will often do things that could be interpreted as 'obstructing law enforcement' and if Bondi can get away with arresting Judges for interfering with ICE enforcement, then this would be a huge moment on the road to a full on police state.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,302 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Given that the Ukrainian constitution says that Crimea is formerly and legally part of Ukraine and cannot be ceded to another country, he is talking nonsense again. It would be like a Taoiseach offering the UK that they take over Donegal.



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