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rsa supporting e-scooters

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    Very interested to know how that contraption works.

    Does it just measure scooters, or does it do bikes too? Unlikely the latter, as they won't have a throttle (if they're legal anyway). Having someone pedaling would completely distort any measurements.

    Perhaps it measures speed? However, most unrestricted bike ebike motors have a simple button to enable the 25 km/hr restriction. Would imagine that most scooters have the option for something similar.

    Measuring power would also be tricky, restrictions centre around nominal power output. Peak power output can be higher.

    Interesting as it is, I can't help but feel that simple regular visual Garda presence in urban centres would be a more effective deterrent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,264 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    It's a portable dyno that measures power output…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    isn't it 20km/h for scooters in the recent law? Which means that every scooter sold before the law came in is probably illegal still.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,178 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    The journal article mentions speed, not power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Widows Son


    And most sold after. I have yet to find a scooter for sale in Ireland that complies with the laws.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,264 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Ah that's grand so, I'm sure via an app or a switch on a 750w ebike/scooter could cause the motor to cut out at 25kph thus making it legal that would otherwise be capable of pedal assist up to 50kph.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,178 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    that's not to say the journal is accurate mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,264 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    A lot of Electric bikes/scooters could find themselves in a legal battle if involved in a collision, will need Insurance to cover liabilities:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭hesker


    What’s the next step in this I wonder. If district court decisions are not binding nationally (as a quick search leads me to believe) will it lead to nothing unless the high court decides to review the decision or the MIBI appeals.

    Edit: someone clarified in the video comments that the bike in question would not have met the criteria to prevent it being classified as a MPV. So, in essence, nothing new here except that the victim is entitled to pursue MIBI for compensation.

    Post edited by hesker on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Schorpio


    Measuring ebike power on a mobile dyno would be virtually impossible anyway, as ebikes don't have a throttle. Anyone pedaling will distort the figure (how much power id from the person, and how much from the motor).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    There's an Irish Cycle article about "e-bikes". It does seem best to use pedelec for electric-assist bicycles that cut out assist at 25km/h and have a low Wattage. This "e-bike" usage is very imprecise, and its usage lurches from one meaning to another, even inside the same news article, as Irish Cycle describes:

    https://irishcycle.com/2025/04/18/e-bikes-and-confusion-from-the-courts-or-the-media-or-both/



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