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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,153 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    lads I’ve a bit of welding to do but no power.

    8kva genny, 6kva constant.

    Would that run the air cooled welder without damaging either and get a few welds done. One of the eyes on my rear end grab broke off, where the arms attach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭148multi


    Use the lighter rods



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I put in a solar pump from SPS solar. I found a spring on the new place. My issue was my pumping height, I had to go for the biggest the 100SB I think. The model below was borderline. It will raise water 60M mine us 30M. Well is surface you can have up to 50M of a draw and I think it will raise water 15 or 20M.

    It cist 5.5k Inc vat. TAMS Grant is 1k and vat back another 1K. It's excellent to pump water. Had 60 cattle on it during dry spells last year

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭148multi


    That's fair going



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭minerleague


    That seems expensive, thought they were about 3k. I am approved in ACRES CP for a solar pump but I think only 1.8k available from that ( must look it up again) I'm hoping if I bought parts myself they will pay out on that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The smalest they have is 2.5k, below is a link to there site

    https://solarpumpsolutions.ie/solarflo-100/

    My problem was thecredtbof there solar were borderline to pump to the heigh I wanted. The draw was not the issue. I also could have 70 cattle on the place at times. It's a different beast to what you probably need.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    The SPS pumps are a nice package, but you can definitly build one much cheaper, no idea where you would stand with a grant though I suspect it probably wouldn't be covered, but could possibly still build a pump for your needs for less including the grant.

    I've built a few different pumps for my own fragmented farm, each only cost a few hundred. Submersible pumps work best for wells, but the suction type tends to last longer if you can get away with a suction height of less than 5m.

    The in-laws have an SPS 70 it has 2 12V pumps in it, they look strikingly similar to this one: Amazon 12V pump

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    But when the pumps failed last year, they wanted the genuine replacements which I think was about €350 for both direct from SPS. There really isn't much more to the pump, a standard well pressure vessel and a pressure switch, a charge controller, 2 solar panels and a battery.

    For my pumps I just used an IBC and float switch as it worked out a bit cheaper as I could get away with 1 panel and no pressure vessel or pressure switch.


    Agridirect are selling a kit for €1200 https://www.agridirect.ie/product/battery-solar-powered-water-pump

    But you'd get a better kit off Amazon for only €250 https://www.amazon.co.uk/DCHOUSE-Submersible-100ft-DELIVERY-Packages/dp/B09NFTJZ6M/ref%3Dasc_df_B09NFTJZ6M?mcid=7d241c27124e3d979554834fb30d10aa&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696451130816&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13141752885726611527&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9221769&hvtargid=pla-1608032295783&psc=1&gad_source=1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭148multi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    It is, but I find the submersible pumps only last a couple of seasons and I've tried a few models. The only thing is they are cheap to replace anyway. Then again the SPS pumps failed after 6 years of use anyway so still way cheaper cost of ownership in the DIY version.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    Could you expand on how the ibc with the float switch works. I have an out farm with mains water, but the pressure isn't good enough to get water to some of the fields I was looking at putting in a reservoir tank and using a solar pump to boost it to troughs .

    I have that exact sps pump on another outfarm pumping from a stream. Great job but like you say had to replace the pumps at 350 last year. It's a bit expensive for how much I would gain from it on the other outfarm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    The float switch works for me because everything is close together near the water source. The float switch in the IBC turns on the pump when the tank is below 3/4 full and it runs until it is full, the drinker is gravity fed through a low pressure ball cock. With this setup, I get away with a smaller pump and smaller solar panel as it doesn't matter how long it takes for the IBC to fill as it will always be ahead of the water demand from the drinker.

    I'm not sure I understand your situation fully though, but if your proposed reservoir is down hill from the drinkers then a pressure switch is probably your only option. The suction capacity of these pumps is fairly limited and they will work far better pushing the water up a hill. You'd still build it cheaper than buying another SPS if you are so inclined and if you think the SPS is overkill you could always just use one pump and one panel. You can scale up if necessary maybe make sure the charge controller you start with can handle 2 panels.


    I found this Teagasc video, showing a simple build idea for mounting panel and battery, but I think I'd like the batter a little further out of reach of the cattle or at least make a cover for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    When the ibc is full, the ballcock should be closed and the pressure switch should know that, and then the pump cuts out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    In my setup I have no pressure switch apart from a very unreliable one built into the pump, so a float switch works best. Pump I'm using is also fairly small so wouldn't trust it with separate pressure switch either. A pump that would work well with a pressure switch wouldn't need the IBC to begin with.

    Even the pumps used by SPS have similar integrated pressure switches that they opted to bypass in order to use a more robust separate one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Pinsnbushings


    Ok I get what your saying I think. If I am understanding correctly in situation I might need 2 tanks, 1 as a reservoir at water source and one as a head tank at the top of the hill to gravity feed back to the troughs.

    I might not have explained it correctly, I have a mains connection to the entrance of the land, it is at the lowest point of the land and there is a 100ft rise at least to the highest field. The mains doesn't seem to have enough pressure to get water to the higher fields, so I'm looking to make something cheaply that would boost the water pressure in order to manage the ground better when grazing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭148multi


    If you reduce the size/diameter of the pipe feeding the hill, would it drive it to a reservoir there slowly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Was it this thread or another that talked about a camera for the back of a trailer or tanker and screen in the tractor? I couldn't find it so has anyone any suggestions?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭onrail


    Anyone with one of those solar water pumps, what depth of water in a stream would you need for the pump intake? We have a constantly flowing well and stream in the middle of the milking block, but there's probably no more than 300mm of water depth at any point



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yes, I have one in a stream that barely covers the filter on the end of the hose at times during hot weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I bought a cheap wired one for the cattle trailer and find it's a great job. I wouldn't bother with the expense of a wireless on as I need to hook up lights and brakes anyway.

    Edit: Was this the post?
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/113128010/#Comment_113128010

    Post edited by emaherx on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    The float switch wouldn't be much advantage in the scenario, you'd just use a ballcock in the IBC at the mains connection you'd also need a ballcock in the second tank, so you'd need a pressure switch, to control the pump which would need to be setup at the bottom of the hill. Also 100ft of a rise is a little more than the SPS 70 is rated for. You'd probably need to look at submersible pumps to get over 100ft of lift.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    A solar system based on tank storage instead of batteries is very simple and easy to maintain and not difficult to put together and install.the way we work it is we have a large tank at the highest point in the system and we have a submersible mains pump on a timer supplying a set amount everyday.we then have the solar supplying when the sun is out and that supplies the extra we need during the year and the beauty is its almost self regulating as in general demand is higher during summer months here.we find having no pressure switch on the system makes ballcocks and stuff easier to maintain but you must have large diameter piping for flowrate.the solar pump is at the other end of the farm so in sunny weather when demand for the milkers is high you have supply from both sides coming to most troughs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    That could be it alright. Ya hardly have a link for the camera? The ebay link in that post sends me off to a radio



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


    That was a while ago, I'm surprised the link went anywhere to be honest.

    Couldn't be sure it is the exact one, but very similar to this:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XQ2JK41/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9ocXBfc2hhcmVk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭onrail


    Does the partially submerged intake cause any issues with the pump?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,560 ✭✭✭emaherx


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    This is the intake filter I use, if you cant get it submerged enough, dig a hole in the stream and line it with a few flat stones, you will need to keep it cleaned out periodically. I'm only using cheap pumps in that situation, so don't worry too much about damaging them, but so far none have failed.

    In theory you should never let these pumps run dry, but I don't even use check valves, so they always run dry for a few seconds on start-up and I've found them a few times running over night where the stream ran dry or just dropped below the level of where the intake was placed earlier in the season. So they are tough enough.

    I have had a couple of submersible pumps fail though and they are used in a well with clean water and never ran dry, but eventually their seals fail and water gets in to the motor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭tractorporn


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    This was this evenings messing. Used self tapping tex screws through the fitting to fix to the door. I wanted something that would move with the door as I hope to let calves out to grass with acces to the feeder when the weather takes up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Would a bit of binder twine done the same job😁😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭divillybit


    Are battery isolator switches compulsory on new tractors?

    Putting a new battery in the tractor this weekend (a 20 year old Valtra) and putting an isolator switch on too while Im at it as was told insurance companies want to see isolator switches on tractors



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    That was the way here for donkeys years I'm slowly trying to move away from it bit by bit



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