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General Star Trek thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭eadrom


    fun. I got six.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Star Trek:Equinox the series. What would ye think? It could be everything that Voyager was supposed to be.

    Maybe we should start a petition for it?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,257 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Cant be too much longer after that? Maybe a week or two.

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    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,592 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Was thinking that when I saw it earlier, seems a bit stupid they would then leave it to August to actually show on the network. Maybe my post earlier about 22nd June is right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭Rawr


    If you’re thinking the USS Equinox that appeared in Voyager, the concept would be interesting.

    It did annoy me a bit how Janeway went so hard on the Equinox for what they did. She went Super-Villian mode in that episode, and might as well had put on her Queen Arachnia outfit…would have matched the mood.

    But yes, the Equinox’s journey was essentially Year of Hell spread out over 5 years, which is what Voyager should have been. Janeway had some difficulties sure, but her journey was a f*cking day-spa compared to what the Equinox had to cope with. Although their crimes were horrible, you could understand what led them there. Janeway’s crusade against them seemed nearly unhinged.

    I get the feeling that maybe they were going for the same vibe we got between Sisco and Eddington. However in the case of Sisco, his vendetta with Eddington was almost personal. Eddington had betrayed Starfleet, but what made it worse was that he personally betrayed Sisco aswell. (He even brought him to baseball…you are special if you get baseball-time with The Sisco). Janeway’s anger on the principal of it, just came across as hollow and in service of the plot.

    So yea…The Equinox deserved a bit of examination. If only they had actually re-used some of the crew members who apparently were still onboard Voyager for the rest of the run.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,407 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The same Janeway that could have wiped out Species 8472 just to not have to take the long way around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Yes That is the ship I am thinking off.

    Yes Me too. It was a great two parter. What an ending. Will we ever get on ending like that or BOBW from TNG again in Star Trek that will leave us hanging I wonder?

    I agree Voyagers journey was a day spa compared to the poor Equinoxs one.

    Yes it was a pity that we never see any of them crew members again. Its like that were forgotten about by the writers.

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    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Why wouldn't Janeway be furious at them? Weren't they capturing, torturing, and murdering innocent beings just to power their engines? Can't see Picard etc having any sort of different view of the Equinox crew than Janeway did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,407 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Someone wants a word.

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    She also developed biological weapons to help assimilate 8472 and to wipe out the Borg which is something Picard could have and didn't do with Hugh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    I was just going to say. As far as Super Villain turns go, Janeway can't top the Tuvix thing tbh



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I'm OK with the Tuvix thing, it was a no win situation and Tuvok and Neelix weren't able to give their wishes on it (there's no way they'd have wished to remain fused), she did the right thing by saving them imo. An emotional one yeah, and a very difficult decision, but she called it right.

    Species 8472, who said they were going to purge the entire galaxy of inferior life forms? Yeah, not gonna shed a tear that Janeway managed to level the playing field with them. She tried diplomacy and to repair the situation but they weren't having it. Once again I've no issue with her actions here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I have no issue with what Picard choose back then to send Hugh back to the Borg as an individual. It would have worked had Hughs individualism spread across all of the Borg instead of unfortunately being confined to one ship which Lore eventually comes across.

    TThe virus might not have worked or might just have disabled one ship for all we know before it would be stopped by the Borg.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Janeway being angry with the Equinox in itself is fine, and makes sense. I think my main issue is how they wrote Janeway’s anger. They presented it almost like a personal vendetta against Ransom and his people, to the point of her being ok with borderline torturing / near-killing captured crew members. And this was a crew she had only met for the first time a couple of days ago.

    Picard would have been furious too, but in the extent of a professional Starfleet officer. He would have thrown them in the brig forever and maybe given a speech about the values of Starfleet, but that would never have driven him to start keel-hauling people who refused to talk.

    I guess my complaint might be rooted in the writing problems they had with Janeway in Voyager. It took me a while to warm up to her, but she is a good Trek Captain. However the writers never seemed to be in agreement about the core elements of how to write for her. Some episodes she’s diplomatic and cool-headed, in others she’s borderline sociopath like in the Equinox episode. Would have been nice with better consistency. Without them being present I can easily imagine the actions Kirk, Picard or Sisko in this situation…but with her it’s a coin-toss in the writers room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭Rawr


    That 2-parter cliffhanger is also at a very interesting point in Trek TV history. Part 1 of Equinox aired right when DS9’s What you Leave Behind finale was airing. Thus, this episode had the unenviable job of trying to pick up DS9’s banner and keep TV-Trek going alone for the next couple of years.

    After the climax of the most drama-filled and expanded space conflict ever televised in Trek, they really needed a hook to get people to tune in again after Summer to what for many amounted to just «Diet-TNG (with added Borg for flavor)». With Equinox they did a pretty decent job at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,592 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Got 6



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭somuj


    Star trek questions again.

    What was the name of the 'Dowds' wife?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭eadrom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭somuj


    Now you ask a question.

    Trying to bring back Trek questions. It was a fun time here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Ok, lemmie try.

    In at least 2 Trek episodes, it is erroneously suggested that the Klingons have already joined the Federation. Can you name the episodes and how this membership is referenced?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,466 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    In the Season 1 DS9 episode "Past Prologue", what is the name of the Bajoran rescued by DS9 crew from a Cardassian attack at the start of the episode?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    This Is brilliant lol,

    Fair play to whoever done this.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭somuj


    Tanna los. Some Zealot.

    What was Picards Nephews name?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,466 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Thats it. Tahna Los played by Jeffrey Nordling.

    I can picture the lad who played his nephew but drawing a blank on name!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Inviere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭JayRoc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,466 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Robert is Jean Luc's brother, not his nephew iirc.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    Crap, you're right. I can't remember the little buggers name so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,407 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Rene.

    Played by the same actor who played transporter accident de-aged Jean-Luc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,466 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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