Does activism achieve anything?

Bogey Lowenstein · 18-04-2025 10:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123369752#Comment_123369752

I don't think it would have made any difference tbh. The neocon administration was always going to invade Iraq, it was planned way in advance. CIA troops were already secretly in there weeks before the official date. The logistics and financial cost of transporting an army, bases, materiel etc halfway round the world is enormous. Once that has been set in motion there is no going back.

Larbre34 · 19-04-2025 12:10AM

I'll tell you what definitely never achieved anything.

Sitting on your hole in silence.

Burt Renaults · 19-04-2025 05:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123370351#Comment_123370351

Riots on their own streets could have made a major difference to Britain's participation.

El_Duderino 09 · 19-04-2025 06:51AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123370351#Comment_123370351

I think you're right that no amount of peaceful or violent protest would have stopped them. Back then, it was an article 5 issue. Turns out it was a complete joke but it would have destroyed the integrity of article 5 if they didn't in the US in invading g those poor divils in Iraq.

I think the UK would have escalated it and risked serious violence with its people before it would have backed down on invading Iraq.

But peaceful and violent protest is definitely more likely to cause change than just waiting and doing nothing.

Akrasia · 19-04-2025 07:27AM

The protests might not have stopped the war, but it revealed the divide between what the state did vs what the population actually wanted.

It put the responsibility on the heads of the likes of Blair who had to go out and defy massive public outrage.

Contrast this with Israel now, the lack of public outrage at the massacres in Gaza make it seem like the majority of Israeli citizens are complicit in the genocide

dxhound2005 · 19-04-2025 08:10AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123370436#Comment_123370436

All things come to those who wait. Patience is a virtue.

Greyfox · 19-04-2025 10:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123370683#Comment_123370683

Sure if we sit and wait the housing crisis will sort itself out, it should only take about 30 years, that's all

dxhound2005 · 19-04-2025 10:59AM

There is no need to build new. Just use the existing stock for people to live in, not sitting vacant.

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In 2022, Ireland had 66,956 unoccupied holiday homes. This figure represents an increase of 8% from the 62,148 reported in 2016. Additionally, the total number of vacant dwellings (excluding holiday homes) was 163,433.

AndrewJRenko · 19-04-2025 02:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123371036#Comment_123371036

ANOTHER 30 years, presumably.

Does activism achieve anything?

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