BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

One of GAI's buses has a malfunctioning destination display out for a run on one of it's routes today. The bus was going out on the L26 from Kilternan to Blackrock Station earlier this afternoon. The number actually looked fine on the display although the destination on it didn't look very clear at all. Does Wrights still supply the NTA with orange LED Destination displays on their buses now as the current fleet of the newer hybrid & electric buses all display the destination & route numbers in white on the outside of the bus.

The Templeogue/Rathfarnahm CBC scheme is changing this junction somewhat. The right-turn ban is still present, but as shown on the Georges street & Kevin Street arms, an exception can be made for buses to make the turn.

Earlsfort Terrace could be a good alternative for the A-spine. The F-spine covering off Kevin Street & Cuffe Street would be quite beneficial IMO - the Clonbrassil Street→Stephens Green connectivity as it stands is quite poor. The 85 will also potentially cover off this link as well, along with the 22, 23 & 24 covering off the Cuffe Street→Merrion Square connection (although it's hard to tell how they'll be rerouted with the college green closure)

I can't help but feel like this is too many buses down Camden St/Wexford St. Harcourt St got messed up as a route for the 15s when SSG north and west got taken by the trams but maybe its time to revisit that to take some of the load away

The College green plaza and removing parliament street for buses just seems to me to be an exercise in trying logjam the rest of the city centre while also trying to stick hugely expanded BC services through it as well. I dont think both are possible .

Look at yesterday - a single broken down bus outside trinity jammed that corridor and the Green line , there has to be some methods of pressure relief. In an emergency there why not use the old Suffolk St and down onto College green route in front of O'Neills pub …. you cant because its all blocked off now

I had a look through the documentation for the Templeogue/Rathfarnham to City Centre corridor that was approved by ABP.

I can't find any indication that consideration was given to allowing a right turn from Wexford Street into Cuffe Street. The maps clearly show that remains a no right turn. There is virtually no discussion or feedback on this junction.

The proposal is that Camden St/Wexford St. Inbound becomes effectively bus only with general traffic allowed outbound. The inbound general traffic is diverted via Harcourt St.

I actually think that if the intention was to route the buses via Stephen's Green then they should have made Harcourt Street the inbound bus lane. A bus only right turn at the end of Harcourt St isn't going to disrupt road traffic coming from Stephen's Green West although might have a minor impact on Luas.

E1s and E2s still bunched together inbound on Ballymun Road despite timetable realignment.

I do think that this is a little bit dismissive of the posters comment here. Rerouting the buses down Cuffe St (where no buses go at the moment ) is quite a big change if you work in Dublin Castle say.

Now I appreciate your point - they have to go somewhere if you accept the plaza proposition and that they can't all fit down Charlotte way but its as bad as having them turn down the Grand Canal , which is also nuts.

I feel BC is being bent completely out of shape here just to have the Plaza

( am saying this as someone who had a sub standard 11 service foisted on us without consultation )

@bk your metrolink comment in the other thread got me thinking - It will be interesting to see if/how the A and E spines will be affected once the Metrolink is up and running (the E-spine will effectively be duplicating the metro from Stephen's Green to Ballymun after-all).

Same for the F-spine and the Luas Finglas extension (not exactly the same tbf as they'll mainly be serving different catchments in Finglas).