Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

That purported 20% LGBTQ figure is extremely suspect. I very much doubt 20% of teens are in actual same sex relationships.

Would you prefer if they just presented femininely but still called themselves he (like me)?

I'm not on HRT. I have considered it, but even if I was on HRT, I STILL wouldn't feel comfortable being called she…

They're not in relationships at all. They IDENTIFY as LGBTQ+ because its basically encouraged and lauded.

Christ I heard a bunch of tweens in my local mcdonalds talk about which gender they were going to be. I was with my GF at the time and she was late twenties and very progressive, but the paper straw fell out of her mouth when she heard that.

So kids are easily impressionable and the state hanging the new and improved rainbow flag in school rooms and flagpoles on govt. builidings as well as whatever the **** their putting in the SPHE curriculum is contributing to that figure.

I blame the parents to be honest. It's not the most complicated thing in the world to teach. Parents are treating 13 year olds like babies these days and are horrified when they turn 14 and get all these ideas in their head.

I hear what you're saying, but I know one of these lads dad and by Christ he is at his wits end. His eldest son is trans and since he is legally separated the son lives with their mother who is just super pro her "daughters" transition.

The son is also in a "support" group in his school (same room as the coder dojo).

From talking to my students the "support" seems to be just adults affirmating whatever the teens say, but I haven't been to one (and wouldn't be allowed stay once it gets going) so I can't say for sure

This is complete nonsense. You've just made this up.

To answer your earlier question, I don't personally know any trans people. But I know they exist, and have nothing against them. Some I have come across in the media seem like sound and decent people. I remember talking here about the Netflix documentary Disclosure, and how the trans people involved (like Laverne Cox) seemed quite normal and very nice. Others though, typically activists on social media, are absolute head wreckers who have done untold harm to their own cause.

In relation to your point above on the "complexity" of biological sex, if you look at anything under a microscope then of course, it looks different and more complicated, and often you are going to find exceptions to the general rules. Though not as many as you might think. Some of the people you imply are "intersex" would be horrified to be so described. I mentioned before, an interview Miriam O'Callaghan did recently with a woman who has Turner Syndrome. The word "intersex" was never mentioned. Neither was DSD. She was just a woman with a specific genetic condition. Having only one X chromosome doesn't make her another sex. The real problematic exceptions are much much more rare than that. And even with these exceptional chromosome combinations, sex is still binary because there are only two possible human gametes. No human has ever produced a third kind of gamete. They are exceptions only because it's not clear which sex they actually are.

The question of how to classify them is a thorny one, but part of the problem we have is that the sporting world took the wrong course of action previously, based partly on bad and poorly understood science, and which prioritised the interests of this small minority of people over the interests of half the population of the world (women). In a way it's still understandable how it happened. Much of the bad science was published in popular magazines like Scientific American. One of the worst examples(*) from that publication was the description of a patient who was genetically partly male (XY) and partly female (XX). They used that one case to suggest that sex is "more complicated than previously thought" and therefore is not binary, but a spectrum. We really needed philosophers to point out the flaws in that way of thinking, but they were found wanting as well. Or maybe they thought it was beneath them as the flaws were so obvious. For starters this condition manifests as a kind of genetic mosaic (or chimera to be more exact but less descriptive). And, anyone who's ever decorated a house knows that a mosaic with two different colours is very different from a blend of two different colours. They aren't the same thing at all and that wasn't evidence of sex being a spectrum at all.

Also, laws, rules and theories don't have to explain 100% of all cases. In any kind of complex biological or physical process that can go wrong, exceptions will happen but they don't invalidate the general rules at all. So, the other fallacy in that article, as I see it anyway, is that they conflated two different concepts: the idea of genetic sex and how it is generally determined, with the sex of this specific patient which was hard to determine.

Classic bad science article:

(*) https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/

I for a long time thought I had Klinefelter's syndrome. I've never got it checked out. My mum was adamant I don't, but I have some quirks (similar body mass, dodgy beard growth, a voice that never broke). I still consider myself a man, even though I do wear dresses in safe spaces.

Actually it was the woman of Scotland who had a problem with it, and not because of safety, it was all about the £££

Long story short, the public sector and especially the civil service is a predominantly female, gynocentric and misandrist organization that was deliberately hiring woman only.

(Discrimination against men is lauded in the public sector and semi states here too.)

So since trans woman were now classed as woman and could now get in on those well paid cushy jobs on the service, they took this case!

While this thread is about fainess in sport, however woman are perfectly happy to play dirty when it comes to tax payer funded pay and pensions

I have a friend who is pro-trans. She believes trans women are women, but that trans men aren't men, because they are too nice, that they lack male aggression.

I am very cynical myself. I despise attention seeking creeps like Bergdorf and Jeffrey Marsh. I'm sort of notorious for my hatred of Aidan Comerford in certain places, because I think he's as much as a danger to trans people if not moreso than gender-critical people are.

I think BelongTo are charlatans, same with Mermaids.

I'm a very old-fashioned transvestite despite my relative youth. I was raised on blogs written by fiftysomething transvestites, and those were very much of the goal to break gender barriers down so that men with long hair and dresses would be commonplace. That you didn't need to become a woman to emulate a woman.

She believes trans women are women, but that trans men aren't men, because they are too nice, that they lack male aggression.

This doesn't make sense from any point of view. If trans women are women, then trans men must also be men. What does she think happens to trans women's "male aggression"?

It turns out that trans women have the same offending pattern as men. Research has found that:

‘male-to-females . . . retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was true regarding violent crime.’MtF transitioners were over 6 times more likely to be convicted of an offence than female comparators and 18 times more likely to be convicted of a violent offence. The group had no statistically significant differences from other natal males, for convictions in general or for violent offending.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/

Because a lot of people, including many women, are so socialised into believing that the main reason for women's existence is to be a support animal for men, that they can't really get their heads around the notion that it's ok for a woman to say no to a man, even when that makes him unhappy.

54.5% isn’t predominantly female. Especially when you consider that only 48.2% of the female workforce are in Senior Civil Service roles.

Maybe try again with something less easy to google.

To what? To choose what?

To choose to have the same sex carer, therapist, support worker.. that right to choose is important for everyone.