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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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    #36392
    Former Former Former
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,116 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123361760#Comment_123361760

    Lowe has rheumatoid arthritis which is an autoimmune disease that can be managed pretty effectively and symptom free with drugs. It’s not like the arthritis that your grandad has in his knees (osteoarthritis).



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    #36393
    johnh6767
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Great signing, very enthused about the 6 month contract, win win for the club & international star on sabbatical. Amazing for the next generation of stars get exposure to these guys day in day out to see the work ethic and learn by sharing experiences



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    #36394
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,488 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123361679#Comment_123361679

    The absolute irony of claiming Leinster are doing anything to prevent youth development :D

    They're literally the best in the world at it.



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    #36395
    scott1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭scott1974


    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIgGC7wOztR/?igsh=MWd1d28zaWM4Z25vOQ==



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    #36396
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,383 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123361852#Comment_123361852

    It was just yesterday that Munster announced the signing of two young Leinster front rows. Players whom have recently been usurped at Leinster by two even younger players. People just want to take a shot at the province without engaging their brains.



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    #36397
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 56,600 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    If Leinster have been given wider scope to sign NIQs of their choosing as a consequence of having to pay more for their Ireland players then that would make sense to me.

    Good signing this.



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    #36398
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123361703#Comment_123361703

    Uhhhhhhh.....isn't he signing after Chicago?



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    #36399
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    confirmed: https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/2025/04/16/new-zealand-back-rieko-ioane-signs-for-leinster-rugby/



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    #36400
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    MOD: More posts deleted and warnings handed out.

    The next person to reference Munster fans whining etc or go looking for their response elsewhere on the internet will be looking at worse.

    Jesus, just enjoy the signing and what it means for Leinster.



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    #36401
    fitz
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,584 ✭✭✭fitz


    I like this idea of getting players in for 6 months who are good enough to just slot in, can keep standards high during 6N without the internationals, and who can bring something new.

    Elsom, Thorne, Barrett - these type of short-term signings have exposed our younger players to serious quality and new perspectives, with Elsom and Thorne's influence and impact on the squad lasting well beyond them. Suspect the same will be said about Barrett.



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    #36402
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    With the way things are panning out, you'd have to think this is the end of the road for Frawley at Leinster. At least Osborne is young enough to bide his time a bit (though I'm not thrilled about the idea of him spending longer moving around the backline).



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    #36403
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭crossman47


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362088#Comment_123362088

    And that's the problem many can't see. Leinster's short term success is being put ahead of the development of home grown talent.



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    #36404
    jonok28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭jonok28


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362030#Comment_123362030

    "Leinster Rugby are delighted to confirm this morning the signing of Blues Rugby and New Zealand All Black utility back, Rieko Ioane."

    Calling him a Utility back rather than centre is potentially interesting.



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    #36405
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362095#Comment_123362095

    I mean, this is fundamentally untrue though. Leinster develop far more homegrown talent than anyone - it is not even particularly close.

    We should absolutely be bringing these kind of NIQ players in. I just question the position of this one. Also I suspect Frawley was gone either way.



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    #36406
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362088#Comment_123362088

    That would be a real shame , I'm not excited by this 'big signing', my connection/interest to leinster weakens further.



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    #36407
    jonok28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭jonok28


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362088#Comment_123362088

    I don't see as much of a problem as others do.

    Leinster have always used three 10's. This season Sam, Ross and Ciaran. Next season Sam, Harry and Ciaran.

    Jamie Osborne will overtake Henshaw at the 12 jersey fairly soon and Henshaw will be moved to the bench. Ioane will be used as a utility player.

    Will Frawley find time hard to come by at centre? Yes but there is opportunities at 10 during the season and at 15.



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    #36408
    Lost Ormond
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362107#Comment_123362107

    Why would this signing weaken your interest in leinster? Why is this signing not a good moce



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    #36409
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362095#Comment_123362095

    I'm curious to hear what you suggest as an alternative.

    Do you think that Leinster should only have home grown players and no NIQs?

    Or do you think we should only have NIQs in areas of comparative weakness in the Leinster setup?

    Because the beauty of it is Leinster produce quality and promise in every position. And a lot of the quality and talent can attribute at least some of their development to the direct and indirect influence of NIQs



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    #36410
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    How does ones connection weaken due to this signing?



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    #36411
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362131#Comment_123362131

    Spoiled or main character syndrome. You decide



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    #36412
    thebaz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362122#Comment_123362122

    blocks the progress to some home bred , like Frawley, Osbourne and a few from Academy. Is it really needed ??



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    #36413
    Former Former Former
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    Whatever this signing means, I think holding back development of young Irish guys is the least of its impact. If he does a similar stint to Barrett, who took a holiday in the middle of his already brief time here, the impact will be negligible.

    Frawley has much deeper issues already. Osborne is getting loads of game time. For guys like Cooney, their key time is the first half of the season when Ioane won’t even be here.



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    #36414
    Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362157#Comment_123362157

    Ah come on.. no side in the world plays more homegrown or academy players.



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    #36415
    Lost Ormond
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362157#Comment_123362157

    Leinster are one of the best at playing young/home grown players. If you want to be the best you need signings and alternative voices. Its great signing for leinster. Would love to be able get signings like these in munster.



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    #36416
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,162 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362158#Comment_123362158

    Osborne is at over 1000 minutes this season with at least 6 Leinster games left and a summer tour to come.

    Last season he finished with 1500 minutes.

    He has 240 minutes in the ERCC this season vs 340 last (with the extra time factored in)

    Anyone who pulls his name for blocked development is both straw manning and doing him a disservice.



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    #36417
    Sangre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,240 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


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    #36418
    The Iron Giant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭The Iron Giant


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362157#Comment_123362157

    If Frawley, Osbourne, Jimmy O'Brien or others are knocking it out of the park, they'll get their spot in the team. J Osbourne is an international, he'll be fine. Andrew Osbourne is nowhere near the level yet.

    Frawley has been pretty poor this year and Jimmy O'Brien has been distinctly average - and they've both had chances to play. Right now the only thing blocking them is their own form.

    One player coming in for half a season isn't going to displace these players as they're not currently in the conversation for the 23. Those players you and others mention have an entire first half of the season to show their ability and take the jersey.



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    #36419
    For Petes Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123362157#Comment_123362157

    It’s for six months…



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    #36420
    clsmooth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Great signing. We will have Henshaw/Osborne for 12 and Ringrose/Ioane at 13. Henshaw isn’t getting any younger and can’t cover 13 to the same degree as he could earlier in his career. Ioane can cover wing if needed which hopefully puts an end to Osborne at 14. If anything, I see this as good news for Osborne as he’ll likely see the majority of his minutes at 12/15 which has been an issue with Jordie Barrett playing in his preferred positions this year.



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    #36421
    crusd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123361852#Comment_123361852

    That is not what I said. I said the IRFU in allowing this move are not facilitating players already through the youth system, and in the squad getting, game time to further their development. We will have more Tommy O'Briens not getting a break until 26. Ioane is not Jordie Barrett either . Ringrose is a better player so the argument of developing players through setting example is spurious, unlike in the case of Jordie Barrett. Provinces, any provinces, should only be allowed sign overseas players in two scenarios - specific position need where a quality IQ player is not available, or an exceptional world class talent on a short term ala Jordie Barrett



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