Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Not all of them will, but enough of them will buy his 'we gotta take some pain while we repair the damage done by Biden' nonsense

This is the same logic that Milei has spouted as he crashes the Argentinian economy and brought the IMF and World bank in to bail out his ultra libertarian selloff of everything in the Argentinian state.

Its impossible to argue against this position as they will adopt the wait and see position until they are either wiped out (by which time the damage is done) or there is some bounce back and then they can claim it was worth it all along.

It took almost 10 years for the hardcore brexiteers to finally accept that maybe the sunlit uplands weren't coming after all (and many of them still cling to the hope of a mythical brexit dividend just around the corner)

Seriously why do people have to put Ireland down. Ireland is not a geographically remote island in the middle of nowhere. Othewise Meta, Google,Intel, Apple, Pharma industry etc would not have such large operations here. Don't come back with tax answer as they don't have to have as much as they have here to avail of our corporate tax rates.

I’m glad to see this getting coverage. We ( I’m in the US) literally have people “disappearing”. A local guy went for a routine immigration appointment three weeks ago and was detained. Has no criminal background, no political or protest activity. His family has been advised to keep a low profile and avoid attention so few people outside the neighborhood know. Makes me wonder what the scale of this s abuse is. Trump shouted about “illegal” “violent criminals”. What we are seeing is the local waiter falling foul of an arbitrary process. This is terrifying. I

Hesketh has removed hundreds of books from military libraries including on civil rights but Meine Kampf is OK.

Well, perhaps multi-generational Irish Catholics fit your description, but this arc of the thread was about your question on Hispanic voters & Trump in 2024. I don't think that group worships the same way as more established American Catholics. Remember that only a generation or so ago, most were living in fairly religiously backwards countries under the thumb of the RCC.

One additional thing; the Democratic party can make some major hay with the INS/DHS/ICE horrors Trump is visiting on brown people in this midterm. Hopefully they will, but 'snatching defeat from the jaws of victory' is a long-tested Democratic political strategy.

Speaking of corruption, I was watching Brooks and Capehart, a couple of fairly mainstream WaPO commenters talking about tariffs. David Brooks, long-time Washington correspondent, said it's just an opportunity for institutionalized corruption. Countries will be visiting DC and sending lobbyists to ask who to bribe in the government. With the shift to cryptocurrency it'll be easy for them to transfer money, and of course the Orange smegmite is immune as he was just executing his duties as POTUS (wink, wink). (just first few minutes is enough)

Also, seems like you can buy justice with sufficent campaign donations, too:

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-03-28/convicted-of-bilking-investors-nikola-founder-and-trump-donor-gets-a-presidential-pardon

It has set a very dangerous precedent. This administration has indicated that the whim of senior government officials is all that it takes for people to be targeted.

If this continues in future, all sort of dissenting voices from non-residents will be targeted in this manner. And some people might say "Good riddance, you are a guest in America, they can decide whether or not they want you to be there". But that is ignoring the facts that there is a huge amount of subjectivity in how this could be used.

We've already seen it used to quell voices appalled at what is happening to Palestinians and a big part of this is because of the influence the Israeli's have on America and American policy.

America used to be the place that dissenters ran to because of its commitment to free speech. Now, people are at the whim of the administration or God knows how many individuals along the chain who have the ability to influence who the finger will be pointed at.

I saw on the news yesterday a Massachusetts lawyer who was actually served with a notice to deport (she is an American citizen) probably because someone made a mistake in transcribing the name of the person on the order but that is all it could take for someone to end up in a whole world of trouble.

These are very dangerous times and to see the epitome of evil Stephen Miller absolutely misrepresent the orders of the Supreme Court so as to vindicate the administrations actions is very sinister. And to have the AG, Pam Bondi, sitting there giving her tacit approval to what is being done is makes it even worse.

The US is supposed to have 3 equal branches to it's government and this administration is driving a horse and carriage through those principles.

Now should be the time those who want to keep their guns to defend against a tyrannical government step up to add their voices in protest at what is happening. Instead, these people are loudly cheering the President on. Dark dark times.

Look at how Trump rolled over many of the top legal firms in the country.

Many of them are now committed to working for free for the administration and aside from that humiliation, you can imagine how eager they will be to pursue cases of holding the administration to account when he clearly has them under his thumb.

Yeah I saw that - you would think legal firms would band together and stay firm - ie you ban one firm you ban them all- but no

Two things are happening in the US at the moment. There is a growing protest movement such as the the "Hands Off" rallies and the massive crowds attending the join AOC / Bernie Saunders events. At the same time, there is an administration heading quickly towards authoritarianism which is eager to quell any dissent. That seems like a powder keg waiting to go off. I wouldn't be surprised if there will be a significant clash between law enforcement and protesters similar to the 1968 Chicago riots during Trump's term.

He is like some sort of weird organism that was created in a slurry pit. Utterly disgusting individual. Elect a criminal rapist as your president, and this is the sort of disgusting human that ends up in a high profile position.

Since I asked who are what is going to stop Trump, I’ve had replies (thanks everyone who did) from military coup to Trump imploding to citizens and their guns to mass riots- not a very optimistic outlook is it, and I can’t say I disagree with any of those suggestions- they’re all “possibilities” although Trump imploding is probably the least likely unfortunately

Take back the House and Senate in the midterms. Paralyze the executive and be sure to run LOTS of investigations, starting with Eloon. Ignore the petition? Off to the pokey.

Elect someone (Hakeem Jeffries?) House leader

Impeach Trump and Vance simultaneously. Jeffries becomes POTUS.

Nice to dream, anyway, as it's likely you can't do a 2-for-1 impeachment.

They will semi switch to Airbus but will also use it as a means to develop Comac.