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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    It's mostly aimed at American politics and Trump but for that kind of radio he should really leave his thoughts or feelings for any political representative at the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    I can appreciate how it might come up from time to time. But he isn't doing a magazine show anymore. His name might be on the title card. But the gig is short links between songs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭hawley


    I wonder if he foresaw Trump's election, from a few years back and if that played its part in his decision to leave RTE. Thought that it might be bad for the Irish economy and that his wages would go down. The UK won't be as badly effected by tariffs. He got in ahead of the slump and is building a strong profile in a bigger market. He's a political nut and he knows everything about US politics.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭Terence Rattigan




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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod: Reminder there is a Podcast forum so please post about podcasts there. There is also a Beauty forum if you wish to discuss makeup brands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭GSF


    They have made it the 14th most listened to station in the uk which surely has to be the pinnacle of achievement in the uk radio industry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Great start to the show today, Ryan really showing how much he’s evolved musically by playing OutKast! I like this more “urban” Ryan, playing rap, saying “drops” last week when referring to the launch and availability of a side project - it really suits him and shows the effect living in London is having on him.

    Maybe the volume setting are off today but Ryan sounds very “shouty” today. He’s clearly very excited, giving a shout out to his good friend Killian from Les Mis who are in Abu Dhabi at the moment and asking him to leave a singing voice note for the show as he says the crew listen to Ryan there as their lunchtime show. Ryan also reminisced about Stan Ridegeways 80’s hit “Camouflage” and treated us to a few seconds of his version which was very good! He said he’d play a snippet of the real song later for “the young people out there” - I’m slightly curious as to why he wouldn’t play the full version as it wouldn’t be out of place on a show that plays so much 80s?

    Finally for now, they’re playing the Pet Shop Boys “It’s a Sin”…..but the on screen display says “West End Girls”. This is obviously not Ryan’s fault but surely the backroom team should have these issues sorted out after 15+ months on air?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Lovely show this morning, Ryan had a lovely chat with Gary Lightbody from Snowpatrol. Highly recommended - worth listening back to if you missed it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Was their any cross pollination or talk of Ryans recent youtube show with Lightbody?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    We’re not allowed to discuss that topic so I can’t answer that question. Apologies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    any lighthearted quips about Lightbody’s name and Tubrity having a ‘Light body’ ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    No. There was some back and forth between them about old British comedies but otherwise it was mostly a book related chat.

    I may be completely wrong on this but I got the feeling it was pre-recorded and not live - I’m genuinely curious if it was recorded at the same time Lightbody visited for Tubridy’s side-project. It’s not the first time I’ve suspected segments or interviews aren’t live on the show (you can almost always tell with the slight difference in audio quality/settings from the live stream) - there were a few times during yesterday’s show when things seemed so too. To be clear, it doesn’t hugely affect my enjoyment of the show - but I am curious as to whether this is happening or are my ears deceiving me?

    I’m not sure of the BAI rules about this sort of thing (perhaps one of the radio insiders can elaborate on same if rules exist?) but I do feel that items such as interviews that’s aren’t live should be declared as such - your classic “my chat with X was recorded earlier” type disclaimer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    It sounded like Tubridy 'phoned it in' yesterday. Now whether he does the show from London, Q102 or phones in his links from...wherever, is really between him and his employers but it sounds a bit disingenuous if he gives the impression to VRUK's listeners that he is coming live (in real time) from the top of the tower. He made reference to Mike Cass yesterday as it was his last day at NewsUK and (according to his link) paid tribute to him and supposedly gestured to him through the studio partition glass. Personally I didn't buy it and again it is quite disingenuous to the listener if he really wasn't there.

    Normally they have been upfront about where the simulcast is originating from and although it sounded like the show was engineered from London, the sound quality of Tubridy's audio feed sounded inferior - somewhat compressed and lacking clarity at the upper frequencies. He definitely sounded to me like he was not coming from the studio HQ. Is this something that will now become more regular? Funny that this should start happening just as Mike Cass has exited the radio station.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,633 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    In post #8 on this thread I called attention to Miriam O'Callaghan inserting a recorded piece into her programme. It happens a lot on the radio. One of the overnight presenters on BBC Radio 5 used to do the programme from America where he lived. He wasn't Up All Night at ungodly hours, but he never made much mention of it. It's all harmless stuff, whether the listeners are aware or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭GSF


    while they are at it the BAI (if it still existed!) could comment on the rules re simulcasting a show from another country and another network in prime time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Kevin Brannigan initially raised some concerns. Under the guise of the BAI, they may not have been so accommodating or cooperative.

    Before the simulcast began, Wireless had gotten the green light from CnaM because the show could be engineered to the extent that there would be no references on Q102 to another network (in this case Virgin Radio) and the format/music playlist would generally be within the parameters/confines of Q102's output. Tubridy does not mention Virgin Radio during his links as they are not tailored to either radio station, apart from the top of the hour promo that goes out on VRUK. However, they have started to record links specifically for Virgin Radio and inserting them onto the VRUK feed at approx 10 mins to 1pm * They may also do something similar for Q102 in due course.

    *This link refers to the next presenter coming up on VRUK after 1pm (usually Jayne Middelemiss) and via RCS Zetta, it is timed to coincide with the execution of a specific jingle announcement that goes out on the Q102 feed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    BAI is now CnaM, there was some questions raised about the simulcast when it was announced, though I think many hand point to Nova's broadcasts of syndicated programming after 7pm.

    I not be surprised if Tubs is simulcast on one of the DAB radio stations also. I wonder if this test expands Q102 into all of Leinster or is their foot print to remain only in Dublin?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    I don’t think it’s too much to ask and in the interests of transparency that if an interview or segment is pre-recorded that it be declared thus. I’m not saying don’t have pre-recorded pieces, I’m just asking that it be declared.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    The thing I find most jarring on the broadcast is the 0044 (UK International access code) prefix given for Whats App’ing the show. It sounds weird to me listening in Ireland when all Irish stations (obviously) have Irish numbers. A minor quibble for sure, and one that while it doesn’t take enormously from my enjoyment of the show just as I said earlier jars with me.

    It must equally sound weird to UK listeners who are only hearing the Intl. access code prefix given on Tubridy's show. Ryan’s determination to race through the number doesn’t help either, but that’s a separate issue.


    It would be interesting to see what the IRE:UK audience breakdown is after 15+ months on air. Going by the messages that are read out I’d suspect it’s mostly Irish - and as an Irish listener that aspect doesn’t really bother me, but I’m not sure how I’d feel if I was a Brit listening in Britain and being constantly peppered with mentions of Ireland and “Irish things”.

    I do think at this stage moving him permanently to Q would be in everyone’s interests. I would view it as a sideways move rather than a demotion - put it this way, I doubt I ever listened to the station before this year and now it’s my mid-morning station of choice so they must be doing something right!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,633 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There will be dozens of TV programmes on this week which are repeats. The stations don't announce that in advance. Nor when the same recorded material is used on the News at 6 and News at 10. As well Phone in radio programmes have to be prepared in advance. Nobody should be surprised by "You phoned me Joe", but Radio Forum people think they spotting a Gotcha moment.

    Thousands of hours of radio will go out this week, and just like today's newpapers will soon be forgotten. Even if RTE and Newstalk inflict them on us twice by repeating theirs overnight.

    If anyone is interested in the BBC presenter literally phoning it in from America, the details are below. And a Telegraph headline from a paywalled article, trying to provoke a reaction to the scandal. That is if anyone cared about such things.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_All_Night_%28radio_show%29

    Rhod Sharp manages to escape BBC's costly exodus to Salford

    Rhod Sharp doesn't tell his listeners that he is talking to them from 3,000 miles away

    By Tim Walker 14 August 2010 • 6:30am



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    As I’m sure you’re aware there’s a difference between a repeat and a pre-recorded segement.

    Re. The “you called me Joe” moments you refer too, aside from not again not being the same thing as live/pre-record the issue listeners have is how the host (Joe Duffy) handles these calls - quite often rudely rebuking the person he’s talking to when the conversation isn’t in alignment with his own thinking, or when Joe says something that implies that the person on the other end of the line called into the show and initiated the conversation or topic - which isn’t correct in many cases, hence the reply,

    The BBC/America example you give is again different.

    Greg Allen was on with BO’C earlier from Augusta. It was live, despite being relatively early in Georgia at the time - and I’d have had no issue with that segment having being recorded last night btw given the time difference.

    The issue I have is when something is presented as live when it isn’t. I feel such an issue can be overcome with a simple disclaimer or announcement that said piece was pre-recorded - this used to be the norm btw for radio and tv.

    There’s a transparency and trust issue here between broadcaster and listener in my opinion. If your opinion differs on that, that’s fine - that is allowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,633 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The best approach is to assume that some things will be recorded, especially music. I think stations should learn from experience and replace remote live interviews with recordings. Far too many of the live attempts break down because of technology failures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    OK so Ryan Tubridy obtained a primetime mid morning slot on a UK music radio station. Apart from the breakfast show most of its midweek programming is music oriented presented by genuine jocks or personalities presenting music programming. The radio stations format and particularly the time slot of the show is not compatible with nor can it permit a 2fm style "Full Irish" type presentation. So Ryan Tubridy is not and has no intention of going down the 'I am going to learn how to be a music jock' road, he doesn't need to. They want to make use of whatever broadcasting skills that he may posses and put him to use as a content presenter which means that his overall presentation will sound somewhat compartmentalized from the radio stations normal music output or sound. Most of his presentation is tailored to promoting himself to the listener as a book nerd and book lover with the show being partly talk orientated to allow for interviews with authors to support that persona. The show is also used as a platform for authors, actors and other celebrities to promote their current projects. 

    Normally there is absolutely no issue with recording an interview with a guest to be aired at a later time or date. The problem arises if the radio station attempts to over engineer it and packages it as if it is happening 'Live' in real time. It is normal for the listening public to be automatically sensitive to something that they are listening to and for something to register if it doesn't sound quite cohesive. We all know or get that feeling when a radio or TV broadcast is presented to us especially if the program is 'Live'. Those are just natural observations and as a result standard US TV stations will indicate if portions of content on 'Live' shows are pre-recorded. 

    The issue with Tubridy is not just about 'phoning it in' because with today's broadcasting technology anyone can do that. The problem lies with the presenter possibly misleading the listener through his actions whilst doing this on what is supposed to be a 'Live' primetime midmorning show. Confidence and respect can very easily be lost from the listener if the overall vibe from the show becomes false or disingenuous and NewsUK are in no position to play with the listener on this. What I have explained is not a 'Gotcha moment' as you put it from your obvious view of trigger happy people on the Radio Forum, it is a fair observation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,633 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Not a problem for me. But I do not have the same insight into what is normal for the listening public, so you could be right. But you could be wrong, and it is not a problem for them either. With such a small minority of the population listening to any radio programme, it is not going to impact on the life of the nation very much anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    If or when it is realised, a presenter 'phoning it in' is more likely to have a negative effect on trust and perception of genuineness. The purpose of my post was not to impact on the life of anyone or any nation. It is a genuine observation.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Recorded/Live, it’s all the same at the end of the day. As long as the overall presentation of the entire show is good what does it matter? Do you think that experts being interviewed on 6-1 are all sitting around waiting for Sharon or David to get to them? I’m fairly sure most of that content is prerecorded before going live and it’s not mentioned explicitly but it fits seamlessly with the rest of the show so ultimately it doesn’t matter. I agree that if a segment on a live show sounds edited then that’s jarring and shouldn’t be there but otherwise who really cares?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    The point I was making is that it does sound edited, and hence jarring - to me at least. If it doesn’t to you - great! We are entitled to have offering views on things.



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