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Sunday with Miriam

  • 26-07-2020 5:02pm
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    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭


    Not really a huge fan of this programme, it's usually just background noise in between Bowman on Sunday and Brendan O'Connor.

    Today's show was an interesting change in direction. She had Mary Trump on as a guest. Trump spoke about the book she has written about her uncle, and her diagnosis that he is a narcissist (she has a PhD in clinical psycholgy), and gave a lot of background information on the factors that, she believes, shaped Trump's personality.

    It seems surprising that this programme was chosen for such a big interview.

    Colm Toibin gave a good account of his memories of Italia 90 too. I can't even remember what else was on the programme, probably the usual. But just a heads up about the Trump segment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭robo


    I used to enjoy the programme that she did where she interviewed 2 people (related through blood or an activity or friendship) - that was good but this new programme (well I think it's been going the last few years) can be hit & miss.
    Yeh surprised BOC or Tubs didn't get that interview with Trump's niece. Might have a listen back, thanks for the heads up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    Not really a huge fan of this programme, it's usually just background noise in between Bowman on Sunday and Brendan O'Connor.

    It used to be just background noise for me too, but it's over to Vincent Wall on Newstalk now. I heard the guest list this morning and it sounded like it was worth a listen, but I can't take to Miriam on radio at all...I just can't listen to her.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cole wrote: »
    It used to be just background noise for me too, but it's over to Vincent Wall on Newstalk now. I heard the guest list this morning and it sounded like it was worth a listen, but I can't take to Miriam on radio at all...I just can't listen to her.
    I like her work in political interviews. She said before she believes the best journalism involves asking tough, or embarrassing questions. She can be quite tough in political interviews, even today asking Mary Trump if she isn't just a bit bitter about being disinherited.

    But most of the Suday with Miriam content is quite bland and the questions are very soft, because who really wants to go hard on some author who's written a paint-by-numbers 'holibops book', which is the show's bread and butter.

    I think the slow pace doesn't suit O'Callaghan's style, although she's so nice about everyone it almost seems harsh to criticise.

    Must check out Vincent Wall. Very incisive broadcaster, knows his stuff inside out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    I think the slow pace doesn't suit O'Callaghan's style, although she's so nice about everyone it almost seems harsh to criticise.

    She does seem like a good egg and genuine...but I just can't.
    Must check out Vincent Wall. Very incisive broadcaster, knows his stuff inside out.

    Business is not particularly my area of interest, but I think he's very good. The topics/guests are accessible and very interesting sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭Robert McGrath


    I like her work in political interviews. She said before she believes the best journalism involves asking tough, or embarrassing questions. She can be quite tough in political interviews, even today asking Mary Trump if she isn't just a bit bitter about being disinherited.

    But most of the Sunday with Miriam content is quite bland and the questions are very soft, because who really wants to go hard on some author who's written a paint-by-numbers 'holibops book', which is the show's bread and butter.

    I can’t agree with you there. I’ve never heard Miriam ask a genuinely incisive “tough” question in her life. And I’m not talking about “asking Gerry Adams if he was in the IRA” type of question - anyone can do that. I’m talking about genuinely listening to the interviewee and challenging them on their assertions and asking for evidence. She is very poor at that, in my opinion. Dermot Desmond was very fortunate that she was the interviewer for a follow up radio piece on his housing article in the papers - she doesn’t actually challenge her interviewees. Soft soap celeb stuff is her wheelhouse, I think


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I had this on after Sunday Miscellany but as noted above, it was as background noise. I didn't know she had Mary Trump on, otherwise I would have paid more attention. I will try listen to that later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,878 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I like her work in political interviews. She said before she believes the best journalism involves asking tough, or embarrassing questions. She can be quite tough in political interviews, even today asking Mary Trump if she isn't just a bit bitter about being disinherited.

    But most of the Suday with Miriam content is quite bland and the questions are very soft, because who really wants to go hard on some author who's written a paint-by-numbers 'holibops book', which is the show's bread and butter.

    I think the slow pace doesn't suit O'Callaghan's style, although she's so nice about everyone it almost seems harsh to criticise.

    Must check out Vincent Wall. Very incisive broadcaster, knows his stuff inside out.

    "Mary Trump joins me now from New York". I don't think so, and the difference in audio from that of the live studio can be clearly heard. She wouldn't get up at 5 in the morning to do an interview on Irish radio. She is doing the rounds plugging the book and it would all be rehearsed. Any hard questions would be just part of the agreed script, and it saves the interviewer from having to actually read the book.

    She was on Womans Hours BBC Radio 4 on Friday, a bit shorter but mostly the same as on Miriam. This format of plugging books, films etc is a well established routine.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can’t agree with you there. I’ve never heard Miriam ask a genuinely incisive “tough” question in her life.
    There was one interesting one with Eoghan Murphy that comes to mind. Miriam was giving him a grilling on the homelessness figures (he was Housing Minister, at the time) and gave him a rough time. She was even pretty harsh on his "posh" image and I don't exactly know how, but I think he was audibly squirming. Anyway, Miriam (who is a Foxrock native, but without any sense of irony) confronted him with uncharacteristic bluntness about Murphy's upbringing, moving back and forth between this and his failure in housing. He got quite tetchy with her, but she kept pressing him.

    A murder happened that day.

    But you're right, she isn't aggressive, but I would say she can be tenacious with her questioning, at times. We saw this on TV, also, with her famous grilling of Martin McGuinness during the 2011 Presidential Election debate. There was a minor controversy at the time, which was unfair. She was asking what everyone wanted to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    What’s going on today? Sounds like Ronan Collins is doing a “feature” on Gavin James. Going on far too long.

    Miriam has had Mick Flannery, Brendan Graham and Michael Harding on repeatedly over the past while but they’d only be getting, the usual, 15 minutes. Harding really should get more.

    If Newstalk wasn’t so bad before 11am on a Sunday I’d have turned off ages ago. Is this what it feels like to be one of the more “bound up” Radio Forum regulars?

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    We saw this on TV, also, with her famous grilling of Martin McGuinness during the 2011 Presidential Election debate. There was a minor controversy at the time, which was unfair. She was asking what everyone wanted to know.

    I think you are remembering it wrong, she said he had murdered people.

    A very big accusation to make unless you have the evidence to back it up, which she didn't.

    Lets be honest, RTE did a job that night to get rid of any candidates who might be a threat to the chosen one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    She has billy keane on at moment.

    Total nonsense talk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    She has billy keane on at moment.

    Total nonsense talk

    Did he make some comment about the behaviour of refugees there? Sounded strange but I couldnt hear due to the loudest kettle in the world reaching boiling point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    PieOhMy wrote: »
    Did he make some comment about the behaviour of refugees there? Sounded strange but I couldnt hear due to the loudest kettle in the world reaching boiling point.

    He was talking about donkey sanctuary refugees as far as I can remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭PieOhMy


    He was talking about donkey sanctuary refugees as far as I can remember.

    Ah right, that really went over my head!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    You can’t not but like John Spillane. Seems to have a genuine “passion” for Irish music, language and history.

    Decent enough show today, no sign of Mick Flannery or Michael Harding though. You’d miss them all the same.

    Think I’m going to have that Spillane song, the one he played on the ‘Late Late’ as well, stuck in my head for awhile. Could be worse, I suppose.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Spillane is a nice enough fella. I cannot claim to be as taken with his music. But sure it is all subjective.

    Had the misfortune to sleep through Sunday Miscellany this morning. Woke up to Miriam. I normally try and avoid her, the voice. You know, its a bit much for me. And while she may of been a great interviewer at one point. Those days are surely gone.

    Glad I caught this mornings show. But I do not plan on making a habit of it.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Had the misfortune to sleep through Sunday Miscellany this morning. Woke up to Miriam.
    You didn't miss much.

    The only good things about sunday miscellany are the intro jingle, the music (we got a bit of Schumann today as a treat) and the occasional good story. Now, I like poetry, but when it comes to poets reading their own work...jaysus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    You can’t not but like John Spillane. Seems to have a genuine “passion” for Irish music, language and history.

    Decent enough show today, no sign of Mick Flannery or Michael Harding though. You’d miss them all the same.

    Think I’m going to have that Spillane song, the one he played on the ‘Late Late’ as well, stuck in my head for awhile. Could be worse, I suppose.

    I like some of his stuff, not all. He was in a band back in the day called The Stargazers who were pretty decent, kind of jazzy which isn't my thing but they were good at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    You can’t not but like John Spillane

    Ah but you can. Maybe it's just the way he is, but his stuff just comes across as all a bit contrived for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    You didn't miss much.

    The only good things about sunday miscellany are the intro jingle, the music (we got a bit of Schumann today as a treat) and the occasional good story. Now, I like poetry, but when it comes to poets reading their own work...jaysus

    I enjoy the, more, story-based “pieces”, myself. It mightn’t be that great every week but it would be a shame if it was cut.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Cole wrote: »
    Ah but you can. Maybe it's just the way he is, but his stuff just comes across as all a bit contrived for me.

    His music or the man, himself? I’m not too into his music, it’s fine for what it is but I don’t doubt that if you were to meet him in person he’d be exactly as he is when he’s interviewed.

    That’s just the “impression” I get.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    Spillane is a nice enough fella. I cannot claim to be as taken with his music. But sure it is all subjective.

    Had the misfortune to sleep through Sunday Miscellany this morning. Woke up to Miriam. I normally try and avoid her, the voice. You know, its a bit much for me. And while she may of been a great interviewer at one point. Those days are surely gone.

    Glad I caught this mornings show. But I do not plan on making a habit of it.

    Sums up Miriam for me. She seems like a 'genuinely' nice person but that voice and all the "ah" and "mmmm" is so hard to listen to. If you listen to any audio of Miriam from say the 90s, you'll hear how her voice/accent has (unconsciously) changed to sound more loike the modern version of the so called 'D4'/'Dort' accent. Pretty normal for that to happen to youngsters, but a bit less so as you age...maybe it's all Caitriona Perry's fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    His music or the man, himself? I’m not too into his music, it’s fine for what it is but I don’t doubt that if you were to meet him in person he’d be exactly as he is when he’s interviewed.

    That’s just the “impression” I get.

    His music. I don't think I've ever heard him being interviewed, so I can't really judge him as a person....maybe one reflects the other...who knows. Might be a lovely fella.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Cole wrote: »
    His music. I don't think I've ever heard him being interviewed, so I can't really judge him as a person....maybe one reflects the other...who knows. Might be a lovely fella.

    I, honestly, don’t know. That’s just the impression I get from seeing his tv shows and interviews. Just seems really into it.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I, honestly, don’t know. That’s just the impression I get from seeing his tv shows and interviews. Just seems really into it.
    Yeah, he comes off extremely sound, the few times I've heard him. He has the energy of a very musical teenager, but the man must be in his 50s. That's what people get from doing a job they love, I think, they never age. Full of enthusiasm, but plenty between the ears too. Great stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    I enjoy the, more, story-based “pieces”, myself. It mightn’t be that great every week but it would be a shame if it was cut.

    I really enjoy the story pieces myself. More so then the music.
    Lillian Smith and Sunday Misc are my favorite ways to start a Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    I really enjoy the story pieces myself. More so then the music.
    Lillian Smith and Sunday Misc are my favorite ways to start a Sunday.

    Lilian Smith's show is really good...heard her play a Shay Healy song about the joys of gin and followed that with What's Another Year.

    Sunday Misc is a bit hit and miss, but I caught a bit this morning with a guy reminiscing about Gerrit van Gelderen on RTE...only those of a certain age who grew up in Ireland will have a clue who that was.

    A bit of an 80s nostalgia morning.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I enjoyed this mornings Sunday Miscellany. However, I've always found it to be essential listening.

    Sunday mornings just wouldn't be the same without it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Lillian Smith and Sunday Misc are my favorite ways to start a Sunday.

    Lillian Smith sounds totally different than she did when she presented weekends Late Date around 10 years ago. It's like listening to a different presenter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Cole wrote: »
    Lilian Smith's show is really good...heard her play a Shay Healy song about the joys of gin and followed that with What's Another Year.

    Sunday Misc is a bit hit and miss, but I caught a bit this morning with a guy reminiscing about Gerrit van Gelderen on RTE...only those of a certain age who grew up in Ireland will have a clue who that was.

    A bit of an 80s nostalgia morning.

    I remember Gerrit and his speeded up drawing of birds.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have the feeling that Colm Toibín is an extremely nice individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭golondrinas


    Lillian Smith sounds totally different than she did when she presented weekends Late Date around 10 years ago. It's like listening to a different presenter.

    I wish Lilian Smith would go back to late date. There was a wan on recently with a 2fm accent ,totally unsuitable for winding down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    I wish Lilian Smith would go back to late date. There was a wan on recently with a 2fm accent ,totally unsuitable for winding down.

    I think thats probably Sheelagh Dempsey who's been standing in for Fiachna while he's been standing in for Creedon. The other night she played a Captain Beefheart track and afterwards admitted she knew nothing about Don and solicited advice from listeners as to stuff she should listen to. Instinctively i thought, a music presenter who knows nothing about Captain Beefheart ffs, but then i wondered if this wasn't just another clear sign it's just i'm getting old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    I think thats probably Sheelagh Dempsey who's been standing in for Fiachna while he's been standing in for Creedon. The other night she played a Captain Beefheart track and afterwards admitted she knew nothing about Don and solicited advice from listeners as to stuff she should listen to. Instinctively i thought, a music presenter who knows nothing about Captain Beefheart ffs, but then i wondered if this wasn't just another clear sign it's just i'm getting old.

    And cranky. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    KaneToad wrote: »
    And cranky. ;)

    Definitely no argument there!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭Cole


    I wish Lilian Smith would go back to late date. There was a wan on recently with a 2fm accent ,totally unsuitable for winding down.

    Loike totes amazeballs I'm assuming. I don't listen to Late Date, but I'd kind of miss Lilian on weekend mornings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Lillian sets me up for the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    I think thats probably Sheelagh Dempsey who's been standing in for Fiachna while he's been standing in for Creedon. The other night she played a Captain Beefheart track and afterwards admitted she knew nothing about Don and solicited advice from listeners as to stuff she should listen to. Instinctively i thought, a music presenter who knows nothing about Captain Beefheart ffs, but then i wondered if this wasn't just another clear sign it's just i'm getting old.

    The Cap'n never gets mentioned on in a lot of best band debates so yeah, it's easy to not have heard of him. Fair play to her for the bit of honesty :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭PMBC


    The Cap'n never gets mentioned on in a lot of best band debates so yeah, it's easy to not have heard of him. Fair play to her for the bit of honesty :)

    I checked and I do know (of) that girl. She is a whole generation after Beefheart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    PMBC wrote: »
    I checked and I do know (of) that girl. She is a whole generation after Beefheart.

    At least she didn’t get into where he, allegedly, got the name from.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I think thats probably Sheelagh Dempsey who's been standing in for Fiachna while he's been standing in for Creedon. The other night she played a Captain Beefheart track and afterwards admitted she knew nothing about Don and solicited advice from listeners as to stuff she should listen to. Instinctively i thought, a music presenter who knows nothing about Captain Beefheart ffs, but then i wondered if this wasn't just another clear sign it's just i'm getting old.

    It's understandable, while the Captain may have been well known in certain circles, his music was never mainstream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Imelda May with her poetry, I'm out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Imelda May with her poetry, I'm out.

    Left radio on after the news to see who might be on the programme, Imelda May. Does she live in RTE ?. Salt-o-de-eert.
    Sickens me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Left radio on after the news to see who might be on the programme, Imelda May. Does she live in RTE ?. Salt-o-de-eert.
    Sickens me.

    She lives in England. Talking about it now.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Cancer death and abortion guests on this morning ..happy days!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,437 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Cancer death and abortion guests on this morning ..happy days!!

    Thought the interview with the hospice lady was good.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A lot of feeling-based stuff and food which I find a turn-off.

    Brendan O Connor comes across as having some sort of slight eating disorder or food and exercises health obessison thing going on.

    The amount of psychology and self-help stuff as well.

    Some of the interviews are good the Richard Dawkins one was excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Why does Miriam insist on using the word mum when mentioning guests mothers, which she does quite a lot? I get that its become widely used in day to day speech in this country but for broadcasting standards whats stopping her from using the more neutral "mother"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    was it mum or "mom" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    was it mum or "mom" ?

    Its always mum with her, "tell me about your mum".


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